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I am moving from quickbooks to odoo and need to know if odoo can provide job level profitability reporting. I need a report that shows me the final revenue and costs associated in the event that we incur expenses that we did not have a po for.

and if the above is possible how do you enter expenses related to a job when no po exists.

thanks 

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Martin - thanks for your response.

unfortunately I am using analytic accounts and analytic tags in order to report at the channel and account level.

for example my business is segmented by 7 sales channels therefore I have setup analytic accounts for legacy programs, inside sales, business development amongst others.  in programs and business development I have a need to generate a pnl by program therefore we are using analytic tags for this.  I can then use the canned pnl report and select analytic account for legacy programs (which will present the pnl for that channel in its entirety) and them if I choose to select one of the named programs example being Emory I can further drill down to this level.

my immediate concern here is that we have shipping and fulfillment costs that need to be coded at the so or po level but we will not have a po for these expenses as we ship on our account and the pos are going to our vendors for the product.  I am starting to think that we may need a po for the shipping in order to be able to "code" the expense to the so/popular.

my dev team is also working on a data dump from odoo so if the profitability reporting at the job level isn't available let then we can build something offline.  but it is important that we can at least book the expenses to the appropriate job.

is it possible to code expenses to the so? or are we going to need a position?

thanks

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The underlying transaction in Odoo that records revenues or expenses in an Analytic Account is called an Analytic Entry.  


Characteristics of Analytic Entries:

  • Revenue is positive

  • Expenses are negative

  • Do not post to the General Ledger

  • Posted to a single Analytic Account

  • Can be tagged with one or many Analytic Tags

  • Can be optionally associated with a Financial Account, Journal Entry, Partner or Product. 


Form View of an NEW Analytic Entry:



How are Analytic Entries created ?

Via:

  • Customer Invoices and Vendor Bills

  • Employee Expenses

  • Timesheets

  • Manufacturing Orders

  • Employee Payslips

  • Depreciation of an Asset

  • Manually

 

Invoices: 

On each Invoice line you can enter one Analytic Account and one or more Analytic Tags.  When the Invoice is validated, the expense (Vendor Bill) or revenue (Customer Invoice) is posted to the Analytic Account and tagged according to the Analytic Tags on each line.


Employee Expenses:

On any Expense you can enter one Analytic Account. When the Journal Entries are posted for the Expense, the amount is also posted to the Analytic Account.


Timesheets:

Quantity of hours multiplied by the Employee's timesheet cost are posted to the linked Analytic Account as Employees enter hours.



You don't need either a Purchase Order or a Sales Order - you can use just Vendor Bills and Customer Invoices.

Having Purchase Orders and/or Sales can be helpful though, because you can set the Analytic Information on them so that when the Invoice is generated, this Analytic Information is carried over for you. 


The Enterprise Edition allows you to filter Financial Reports by any combination of Analytic Account and Analytic Tag:



More information at https://www.odoo.com/documentation/user/10.0/accounting/others/analytic/usage.html


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Thank you so much Mr. Carnes. This realy worked for me.

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You should use analytical account that will provide profitabillity reporting.

You can follow CO / PO / Expenses and Time on Analytical accounts. In the accouning you have the profit and loss analysis on analytical account.

In the Expense module you simply enter the Analytical account. And it will be added to the report.

Ihave ben using this in odoo 9 and now 10.

Hope this helps

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Thanks to both Ray and Martin.

I think I am starting to get my head around the analytic accounts.

Previously I was thinking I needed the analytic accounts for my channel and analytic tags for my named accounts (not all my accounts are named accounts) but it is now sounding like I can use the analytic tags for both of these functions freeing up the analytic accounts for what we are talking about here.

What I am still struggling to understand is how do I run a profitability report on a particular order.  Surely I would not create an analytic account for every single order???

In Quickbooks terms this would be a job.

Thanks

S

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If you use a Service item and under tab invoicing you set timesheet on project as a tracking service. You will create one analytical account for each sales order when you sell that service.