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Sometimes, our customers are debited thanks to the SEPA Direct Debit (SDD).


Once we send the SEPA xml file to the bank, the bank will retrieve the money from the customer. Later, in our bank statement, we will notice the incoming amount from the customer and we will be able to reconcile the SEPA incoming payment with the related bank statement.



It can happen that our customer doesn’t have enough money in his own bank account once the money is retrieved. Therefore, as the bank already forwarded the money on our bank account, it will reject the SEPA payment and will take back the money on our bank account. We will see on our bank statement a negative amount which has been taken away from us. :’(



How to handle this use case inside Odoo ?


After the creation of the customer invoice, thanks to the mandate, we create a SEPA payment file to retrieve the money from our customer. The customer invoice is then reconciled with the SEPA incoming payment and the payment status of the invoice is “In payment”.


 


The first bank statement arrives and we are able to reconcile the payment with the transaction, meaning that the payment status of the invoice is now on “Paid” and the SEPA incoming payment is now linked to a statement.


In a short period of time, the second bank statement arrives with the SEPA rejection. First thing to do, as the invoice has not been paid in the end, we need to reopen it by clicking on the button “Unreconcile” of the payment widget in the invoice (see screenshot above). The payment status of the invoice will come back in “Not paid”. Regarding this second statement, we will reconcile the transaction with the related partner on the receivable account in the manual operations (by default, as it’s an ongoing payment, Odoo will propose the payable account). 


Last thing to do, we need to reconcile the credited receivable account of the first SEPA payment journal entry with the debited one of the last bank reconciliation entry. We can reconcile inside the partner ledger under the Accounting menu.



To summarize, our initial invoice remains open, all our bank transactions are reconciled and the journal items with the receivable account in the incoming SEPA payment and SEPA rejection are reconciled as well. 


Please find the demo in this video : https://watch.screencastify.com/v/HXnb7R6GLmYkRtYlWfmQ


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Thank you for sharing! I was just trying to figure out how to cancel out bounced and refunded payments and this did the trick!

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Hi Jérôme,

Thank you for explaining this use case. This was really helpful and gives more insight into the capabilities of the Accounting app. 


Adding a scenario to the provided use case, what if the bank also charges a SEPA failure fee, let's say $10? The business will charge this eventually to the customer but the expense has occurred and we want to record this. How that would affect/be treated inside the Accounting app? 

Also, should we create a new invoice for $10 for the customer or should we amend the existing one to $1010? 



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Hello


In the case of a direct debit rejection on an invoice for the sale of a service with VAT on collection, we are having problems with the behaviour of the VAT entries created and the lettering. Have you already encountered this problem and how should we proceed?

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There is a video about this (4:25) --> https://www.odoo.com/fr_FR/slides/slide/sepa-direct-debit-1879?fullscreen=1#

They explain a different method to achive the same goal by reversing the bank statement from the bank journal, invoice status will be back to 'unpaid' and you will be able to reconcile the reverse statement with the SEPA rejection statement and also re-issue the SDD

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Hi,

Thanks for sharing this use case. We are implementing Odoo in our company as well and we have the same interrogation about the SEPA payments as it's the #1 payment method of our clients (monthly subscriptions).

Are there ways to automate the process you describe Jérôme in case of a rejection?

Also, we are interested in getting inputs on the way the situation described by Awais (with sepa failure fees charged by banks) can be handled in Odoo.

Thanks.

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