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Re: POS receipt vs Invoice - Why the division?

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gvalverde
- 29/04/2017 15:29:43
There are a few drawbacks of using the actual invoice option,
  1. The one you mention (could be easily fixed by using a default client)
  2. Does not work Offline (caching the journal sequences could solve it)
  3. There's not a template for POS invoices (as that invoice should fit in a 4'' Printer, just as the receipt.)
  4. Does not work with the PosBox
And those drawbacks are more than enough not to use it. 

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Levent Karakas <levent@mektup.at> wrote:
Why don't you use invoice option instead of receipt on the pos ui? Only drawback is you need to select customer. 



29 Nis 2017 20:00 tarihinde "Gustavo Valverde" <gvalverde@iterativo.do> yazdı:
I love to solve problems from their root cause, the driver is just an interface, and there are plenty of those.

We can't obviously change the way Odoo SA does things based on peripherals, but based on logic; and the main logic for the fiscal use case is having the sequence, and other informations, from the sales journal (or invoice) into the receipt.

And thinking on that, maybe the solution is just as simple as having an option to always link a receipt to an invoice, using the same sales sequence/journal.

Regards,

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Gustavo Orrillo <gustavo.orrillo@moldeointeractive.com.ar> wrote:
Gustavo,

If you need to integrate POS with fiscal printers you need to create a driver such as this one;


which is the driver for the Epson printer in Argentina. That is the real block in using the POS module.

Later you can customize the POS to create invoices while tickets are created, but first you need to solve that

Gustavo

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Gustavo Valverde <gvalverde@iterativo.do> wrote:
Almost forgot another important difficulty that might be caused by the division: Fiscal Devices.

There are 20+ countries around the globe that require a Fiscal Journal for the POS, and the sequence of this journal must be passed through to the receipt/invoice printed by the fiscal printer or even a normal printer; but the sequence is still needed.

Regards, 

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Gustavo Valverde <gvalverde@iterativo.do> wrote:
Hi Community,

I've been recently working with the Point of Sale, and I'd like to know what caused the division and creation of two concepts: a receipt and an invoice.

My curiosity comes from the difficulties that this commonly causes in most non-EU countries, and even so I can't understand why for the EU countries this needs a segregation, as I have not seen a legislation prohibiting the creation of an invoice for every sale that has been done.

The most common difficulties I've seen in the community, caused by this segregation are:
  1. Anglo-saxon accounting can't be accomplished with the POS
  2. The invoice sequence can't be added to the POS receipt
  3. A paid invoice can't be printed through the posbox after payment has been received.
I don't know if this has been discussed before, but maybe a "common" solution can be found for the previous difficulties that most non-continental accounting countries have to deal with.

I'd like to know if a common solution has been thought, but from a functional view I see this as just having an option to use invoices globally (in the backend and in POS) or to have it segregate it (invoices and receipts); as receipts don't have much logic, this practically shouldn't be a problem in the future.

Hopefully we can keep up with the discussion. 

Regards,

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Gustavo A. Valverde
Managing Partner
--
Av. Bolívar 407, Gascue,
Santo Domingo, D.N.

Tel.:
 +1 (829) 686-8270
Skype: gvalverde02
Web: www.iterativo.do

    


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Santo Domingo, D.N.

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Skype: gvalverde02
Web: www.iterativo.do

    


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Web: www.iterativo.do

    


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