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Re: Update BoM after an MO is completed? (v8)

by
Bogdan Lisnenko
- 09/23/2015 03:58:15

Thanks, Eva I'll check it definitely.

22 вер. 2015 15:43 "Eva Pinter @ YBO" <eva.pinter@ybo-services.com> пише:

Bogdan,


did you check OdooMRP? It creates per operation an order that will be linked with the MO. Check it, it may help.

Regards
On 22 Sep 2015, at 12:26, Bogdan Lisnenko <lem8r.ka11a@gmail.com> wrote:

In my case more convenient way would be to have small MOs with one work order and simple editable BOM
but there should be the way to group this MOs in bigger tasks, which can be grouper in projects and so on. Tree-like structure editable on the fly.
With report what has been planned, what was done and what is left in canban view.

Just thoughts..

2015-09-22 13:23 GMT+03:00 Jordi Ballester Alomar <jordi.ballester@eficent.com>:
Eva,

In OdooMRP when you define the BOM you can choose what will be the operation where this material will be proposed to be consumed.

Perhaps a very interesting move forward would be that the BOM is exploded into the MO, not when you confirm the MO, but when you confirm the individual work orders, and then only the materials applicable to that Work Order are exploded from BOM to that Work Order, so that procurement can start for that Work Order that has been confirmed.

Now, changes made to the BOM, or even in case of a new BOM version, should perhaps be re-exploded into the MO's Work Orders, at least for the materials and quantities that have not yet been started to be procured. 

Regards,
Jordi.



On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Eva Pinter @ xpansa <eva.pinter@xpansa.com> wrote:

Michel,


To have standard costs calculated based on the standard BOM is a standard process in most industries. And variances are always expected, no matter what the industry. The point is to know at which time you record the changes. Using OdooMRP, you can have production by operation and also assign material to each operation, so that when you finish one operation, you can report the material used for that very operation. This is also standard used in larger companies.

The important point is that if you try to have a proper procurement, you need to have accurate stock. Standard MO does not allow to procure in a timely manner as you have to have all ready before starting. This pushes the user to start production and then do corrections afterwards what brings issues in stock management and procurement.

As Jordi said, it is absolutely a standard process to make changes in the BOM and most companies have even at the same time multiple versions of the BOM. Again, OdooMRP has a solution for this and allows you to manage the different versions of the BOM, so that you can choose the most appropriate for a specific MO.

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Eva Pinter


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On 22 Sep 2015, at 10:17, adlibitom pop <ad.libitom@laposte.net> wrote:

Hi all
If I remember correctly, in the automobile industry, a car has its BOM (and sub BOMs) and these are updated only when a major change is needed.
The follow-up of actual versus planned in terms of costing is done thru the use of Standard costs (material and time); then the variances are analysed and explained. Leading to changes into the BOM if absolutely necessary.
Michel Guénard

Le 22/09/2015 10:52, Eva Pinter @ xpansa a écrit :
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Jordi,


Great idea to have the resource plan and to create the MO at the end. The main issue with changing the BOM systematically afterwards is to have the whole material flows not under control and not be able to procure for the follow-up manufacturing orders, due to totally inaccurate stock.

Of course, the system should also allow to make corrections to the really used materials in order to be able to make a comparison between plan cost and real cost. But best practice is to produce by operations and to have the correction at each operation before you start the operation or just before you report the time used for the operation (meaning at the end of the operation as you should know what was used then).



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Best Regards,
Eva Pinter


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On 21 Sep 2015, at 23:38, Ray Carnes <ray.carnes@bistasolutions.com> wrote:

Odoo v8:



 

In the case where Bills of Materials are ‘preliminary’ lists of components, and the ‘final’ list is only known once the first item is made, there is a requirement to update the BoM at the end of the first MO, and subsequently if there are BoM updates. 



 

A BoM update would also supports the correct product cost, so that when updated (BoM Cost), it includes the components actually used in the MO, in addition to those specified on the BoM as it was before work began on the MO.



 

With Odoo-MRP’s custom module https://github.com/odoomrp/odoomrp-wip/tree/8.0/mrp_production_add_middle_stuff I can get additional components to be added to the Bom (and with a customization, costed via Analytic Accounting).




 

Next I want to try https://github.com/michaeljohn32/odooaddons/blob/master/README.md to get the additional items moved out of WIP.




What about having the BoM get updated at the end of the process?  Has anyone done something similar?




Thanks in advance.



 

Ray Carnes


Senior Odoo Consultant


Bista Solutions


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