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RE: Product Variants :: Question

by
Antiun Ingeniería S.L., Rafael Blasco
- 01/29/2015 16:25:37

Thank Antony, that’s it’s what I said. I asked why?

 

In the way Fabien explained, premises: (after we can apply logic)

 

1 - “several variants of the same template are really different products

2 - “We wanted to put most characteristics on the template otherwise it's too complex for the end-user to create a new product”,

 

We have

 

-          product.template -> description_sale

-          product.product -> description_sale

 

Let’s say:

 

When you write in product.template it propagate changes to product.product in variants but when you write in product.product it writes only in that variant.

 

We can affirm premise 1 and 2 are satisfied!

 

 

 

De: Antony Lesuisse [mailto:al@openerp.com]
Enviado el: jueves, 29 de enero de 2015 20:12
Para: Community: CMS / eCommerce Experts
Asunto: Re: Product Variants :: Question (bug?)

 

Variants share the descriptions. Only attributes can be different (and the 

price on those attributes).

 

On 01/29/2015 07:52 PM, Rafael Blasco wrote:

> Hi all,

>

 

> I would like to rescue this thead.

>

 

> It’s clear about how and why Odoo implemented variants in product. Easy to

> understand.

>

 

> 1 - What I don’t understand  (maybe is a bug) is why in the variants,

> description_sale in product.product is propagated to all variants and to the

> template.

>

 

> For example: you have t-shit (red, green)

>

 

> description for Green: This is a Green T-shirt like a tree

>

 

> description for Red: This is a Red T-Shirt like a tomatoes

>

 

> The second description you write will propagate and over write the actual

> description eventhough is a description_sale of product.product.

>

 

> This means that Variants are not usefull in the e-commerce side, because

> clients will see a photo of a Grenn T-shirt but a descripción like “This is a

> Red T-Shirt like a tomatoes”

>

 

> Any of you have this same problem? I’m using SAAS Odoo.

>

 

> 2 – Has any sense that 2 different Manufacturing processes produce 2 different

> variants from the same product?

>

 

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>

 

> *Re: Product Variants :: Question*

>

 

> By /Fabien Pinckaers (fp) /- 2014-07-16 08:05:24

>

 

> Daniel,

>

 

> No, several variants of the same template are really different products,

>

 

> with different prices, pictures, internal codes, EAN, stock levels. What

>

 

> we call a 'product' is actually a specific variant of a template.

>

 

> But, even if they are different products, variants of the same template

>

 

> share a lot of attributes between each others: suppliers, base price,

>

 

> description, base name, etc.

>

 

> Starting from version 8, a user:

>

 

>    - create/edit products from the template view

>

 

>    - can drill down to variants, but it's not mandatory as we designed

>

 

>      the system so that you just need to work on the template form if you

>

 

>      do not use variants.

>

 

>   - selects variants of a template if working on a sale order/picking

>

 

> Since a lot of attributes are shared between variants, a good practice

>

 

> is to use variants for products that have nearly all attributes in

>

 

> common and differ slightly by just a few characteristics (color, size)

>

 

> We wanted to put most characteristics on the template otherwise it's too

>

 

> complex for the end-user to create a new product. (having to create a

>

 

> template then zoom to the variant just to set the cost price is too complex)

>

 

> The supplier price is on the template but can be different from one

>

 

> product to another since pricelists use products, not templates. (not

>

 

> ideal but it works).

>

 

> For the cost price, it may be a good idea to be able to overwrite it on

>

 

> the variant, but it's not the case for now on. (maybe a community module?)

>

 

> Thanks,

>

 

> On 07/16/2014 09:32 AM, Daniel Reis wrote:

>

 

>>> May I broaden this question on what fields are variant sensitive? And

>

 

>>> add the question if the present set of fields is sensible?

>

 

>>> e.g. Image, Internal Ref, EAN (?) can receive different values, but as

>

 

>>> said above, procurement costs cannot.

>

 

>>

 

>

 

>> AFAIK, the point for "variants" is to let the same "Product" (same Ref,

>

 

>> EAN, Cost,...) have different characteristics such as colour and size.

>

 

>>

 

>

 

>> If you need different EAN's or Cost for "variants", then probably you

>

 

>> want to have different "Products" instead of one product with variants.

>

 

>>

 

>

 

>> /DR

>

 

>>

 

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>

 

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>

 

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>

 

> Rafael

>

 

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