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Re: Accounting Roadmap V9

Fabien Pinckaers
- 10/09/2014 17:07:34
And about the direction: as usual, we want the power and advanced
features of highly advanced software/ERP but we want to make them
super simple. From our experience, it's not incompatible. You just
have to think out-of-the-box to find the perfect solution that allows
features while being super easy and fast to use.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Fabien Pinckaers <> wrote:
> Guys,
> You may have misunderstood the "remove hierarchy" technical spec.
> I completed the "Reporting" section to make it more clear on our goal
> to improve the 'structured' CoA.
> Fabien
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Fabien Pinckaers <> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> A few notes:
>>   - the accounting spec is in draft. A lot of things will probably
>> change after the meeting of next week.
>>   - we did it quite quickly so it's not complete enough: a lot will
>> evolve over the next weeks
>>   - My feeling is that it's only 20% of the spec. (especially, all the
>> usability stuff have not been analysed yet. More will come later.)
>> I changed the access rights on the document so that anyone can add
>> comments and/or ideas:
>> Please only add constructive comments to keep the document readable:
>>   - try to argue with links or examples
>>   - avoid subjective arguments (no +1, ...)
>> Thanks,
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ben Olsen <> wrote:
>>> I must agree with Lek. Many of the new and redesigned features sound great,
>>> but losing account hierarchy would cause serious issues. In our company we
>>> must maintain a very complicated and detailed Chard of Accounts, because we
>>> face scrutiny from government auditors. We need the account hierarchy to
>>> keep everything organized, and trying to throw our 500+ accounts into one
>>> giant list would be a disaster. Additionally, we rely on the View types to
>>> sum up all totals from child accounts, giving us quick overviews of
>>> different sub-sections of the Chart of Accounts.
>>> I looked over and can see why Odoo would want to aim for that kind
>>> of user-friendly interface. However, in terms of functionality, Odoo needs
>>> to remain a full-featured ERP and allow for much more complicated settings,
>>> especially with Accounting.
>>> Perhaps v9 could offer a simplified accounting system for small businesses,
>>> but allow the more complicated features, like account hierarchies, to be
>>> enabled if desired?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ben Olsen
>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Wipawii <> wrote:
>>>> Greeting from Thailand,
>>>> Agree with Lionel. Budget is important for an organisation. It is to
>>>> control how your business should go. It is a plan of finance.
>>>> +1 for Reconciliation, reduce complication of Tax setting, very good for
>>>> restart sequence for new FY, tax is workable on Expense, More flexible on
>>>> Reporting with pdf and excel are optional and last one menu items is NICE!
>>>> However, removing account hierarchy  is incomprehensible. Account
>>>> hierarchy is sort of like basic of accounting in part of presentation for
>>>> management assertion, unless Odoo will have other friendly feature to
>>>> support CFO to create their own financial report template freely. Hopefully,
>>>> new account type and reporting in this roadmap will help.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Lek
>>>> Sent from my Android
>>>> On Oct 9, 2014 9:58 PM, "Lionel Sausin" <> wrote:
>>>>> I find the beginning of the document very worrying :
>>>>> "(...) Not a priority:
>>>>> Budget
>>>>> Analytic"
>>>>> I'm worried because our company is into manufacturing, and our accounting
>>>>> is so simple that we didn't even bother making it in Odoo - EBP compta does
>>>>> the job for ~200€.
>>>>> BUT analytics and budgets are major features for us, the only ones we'll
>>>>> really use in Odoo's accounting.
>>>>> So please, by all means do improve whatever you want on accounting, but
>>>>> do NOT remove any more existing features.
>>>>> Lionel Sausin
>>>>> Le 09/10/2014 15:51, Graeme Gellatly a écrit :
>>>> cite="" >>>>> type="cite"> >>>>> >>>>> Omg. You are taking your model from a 1-10 user accounting system with no >>>>> concept of stock, no concept of anglosaxon, not even a concept of a sales >>>>> order really and literally quoting their CEO verbatim while inserting >>>>> screenshots of their product. >>>>> >>>>> Dont get me wrong, i like xero, i use xero, i have written integrations >>>>> between xero and openerp, in fact i own shares in xero, but this is either >>>>> crazy or odoo is abandoning anybody subject to anything but a small business >>>>> reporting standard. >>>>> >>>>> I feel sorry for partners. I think you just got screwed but at least the >>>>> direction is clear early. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing-List: >>>>> Post to: >>>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing-List: >>>> Post to: >>>> Unsubscribe: >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing-List: >>> Post to: >>> Unsubscribe: