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Re: Accounting Roadmap V9

by
Fabien Pinckaers
- 10/09/2014 16:49:11
Guys,

You may have misunderstood the "remove hierarchy" technical spec.
I completed the "Reporting" section to make it more clear on our goal
to improve the 'structured' CoA.

Fabien

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Fabien Pinckaers <fp@openerp.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A few notes:
>   - the accounting spec is in draft. A lot of things will probably
> change after the meeting of next week.
>   - we did it quite quickly so it's not complete enough: a lot will
> evolve over the next weeks
>   - My feeling is that it's only 20% of the spec. (especially, all the
> usability stuff have not been analysed yet. More will come later.)
>
> I changed the access rights on the document so that anyone can add
> comments and/or ideas:
>   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MahXh0TdfjI0ohdTSz_c8cML7HqxvcAtvSAY63N20Tc/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Please only add constructive comments to keep the document readable:
>   - try to argue with links or examples
>   - avoid subjective arguments (no +1, ...)
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ben Olsen <ben.olsen@imsar.com> wrote:
>> I must agree with Lek. Many of the new and redesigned features sound great,
>> but losing account hierarchy would cause serious issues. In our company we
>> must maintain a very complicated and detailed Chard of Accounts, because we
>> face scrutiny from government auditors. We need the account hierarchy to
>> keep everything organized, and trying to throw our 500+ accounts into one
>> giant list would be a disaster. Additionally, we rely on the View types to
>> sum up all totals from child accounts, giving us quick overviews of
>> different sub-sections of the Chart of Accounts.
>>
>> I looked over xero.com and can see why Odoo would want to aim for that kind
>> of user-friendly interface. However, in terms of functionality, Odoo needs
>> to remain a full-featured ERP and allow for much more complicated settings,
>> especially with Accounting.
>>
>> Perhaps v9 could offer a simplified accounting system for small businesses,
>> but allow the more complicated features, like account hierarchies, to be
>> enabled if desired?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben Olsen
>> IMSAR LLC
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Wipawii <wipawiij@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greeting from Thailand,
>>>
>>> Agree with Lionel. Budget is important for an organisation. It is to
>>> control how your business should go. It is a plan of finance.
>>>
>>> +1 for Reconciliation, reduce complication of Tax setting, very good for
>>> restart sequence for new FY, tax is workable on Expense, More flexible on
>>> Reporting with pdf and excel are optional and last one menu items is NICE!
>>>
>>> However, removing account hierarchy  is incomprehensible. Account
>>> hierarchy is sort of like basic of accounting in part of presentation for
>>> management assertion, unless Odoo will have other friendly feature to
>>> support CFO to create their own financial report template freely. Hopefully,
>>> new account type and reporting in this roadmap will help.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Lek
>>>
>>> www.ecosoft.co.th
>>>
>>> Sent from my Android
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2014 9:58 PM, "Lionel Sausin" <ls@numerigraphe.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I find the beginning of the document very worrying :
>>>>
>>>> "(...) Not a priority:
>>>>
>>>> Budget
>>>>
>>>> Analytic"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm worried because our company is into manufacturing, and our accounting
>>>> is so simple that we didn't even bother making it in Odoo - EBP compta does
>>>> the job for ~200€.
>>>> BUT analytics and budgets are major features for us, the only ones we'll
>>>> really use in Odoo's accounting.
>>>> So please, by all means do improve whatever you want on accounting, but
>>>> do NOT remove any more existing features.
>>>>
>>>> Lionel Sausin
>>>>
>>>> Le 09/10/2014 15:51, Graeme Gellatly a écrit :
>>>> 
>>> cite="mid:CAFmBtG3XKF9qrNGhmRqVF1ZLW+PibYcZpRMNeMm5cvBy1SDMGg@mail.gmail.com" >>>> type="cite"> >>>> >>>> Omg. You are taking your model from a 1-10 user accounting system with no >>>> concept of stock, no concept of anglosaxon, not even a concept of a sales >>>> order really and literally quoting their CEO verbatim while inserting >>>> screenshots of their product. >>>> >>>> Dont get me wrong, i like xero, i use xero, i have written integrations >>>> between xero and openerp, in fact i own shares in xero, but this is either >>>> crazy or odoo is abandoning anybody subject to anything but a small business >>>> reporting standard. >>>> >>>> I feel sorry for partners. I think you just got screwed but at least the >>>> direction is clear early. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >>>> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >>>> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >>> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >>> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe