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Re: Accounting Roadmap V9

by
Fabien Pinckaers
- 10/09/2014 16:35:44
Hello,

A few notes:
  - the accounting spec is in draft. A lot of things will probably
change after the meeting of next week.
  - we did it quite quickly so it's not complete enough: a lot will
evolve over the next weeks
  - My feeling is that it's only 20% of the spec. (especially, all the
usability stuff have not been analysed yet. More will come later.)

I changed the access rights on the document so that anyone can add
comments and/or ideas:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MahXh0TdfjI0ohdTSz_c8cML7HqxvcAtvSAY63N20Tc/edit?usp=sharing

Please only add constructive comments to keep the document readable:
  - try to argue with links or examples
  - avoid subjective arguments (no +1, ...)

Thanks,


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ben Olsen <ben.olsen@imsar.com> wrote:
> I must agree with Lek. Many of the new and redesigned features sound great,
> but losing account hierarchy would cause serious issues. In our company we
> must maintain a very complicated and detailed Chard of Accounts, because we
> face scrutiny from government auditors. We need the account hierarchy to
> keep everything organized, and trying to throw our 500+ accounts into one
> giant list would be a disaster. Additionally, we rely on the View types to
> sum up all totals from child accounts, giving us quick overviews of
> different sub-sections of the Chart of Accounts.
>
> I looked over xero.com and can see why Odoo would want to aim for that kind
> of user-friendly interface. However, in terms of functionality, Odoo needs
> to remain a full-featured ERP and allow for much more complicated settings,
> especially with Accounting.
>
> Perhaps v9 could offer a simplified accounting system for small businesses,
> but allow the more complicated features, like account hierarchies, to be
> enabled if desired?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben Olsen
> IMSAR LLC
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Wipawii <wipawiij@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
>>
>> Greeting from Thailand,
>>
>> Agree with Lionel. Budget is important for an organisation. It is to
>> control how your business should go. It is a plan of finance.
>>
>> +1 for Reconciliation, reduce complication of Tax setting, very good for
>> restart sequence for new FY, tax is workable on Expense, More flexible on
>> Reporting with pdf and excel are optional and last one menu items is NICE!
>>
>> However, removing account hierarchy  is incomprehensible. Account
>> hierarchy is sort of like basic of accounting in part of presentation for
>> management assertion, unless Odoo will have other friendly feature to
>> support CFO to create their own financial report template freely. Hopefully,
>> new account type and reporting in this roadmap will help.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Lek
>>
>> www.ecosoft.co.th
>>
>> Sent from my Android
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2014 9:58 PM, "Lionel Sausin" <ls@numerigraphe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I find the beginning of the document very worrying :
>>>
>>> "(...) Not a priority:
>>>
>>> Budget
>>>
>>> Analytic"
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm worried because our company is into manufacturing, and our accounting
>>> is so simple that we didn't even bother making it in Odoo - EBP compta does
>>> the job for ~200€.
>>> BUT analytics and budgets are major features for us, the only ones we'll
>>> really use in Odoo's accounting.
>>> So please, by all means do improve whatever you want on accounting, but
>>> do NOT remove any more existing features.
>>>
>>> Lionel Sausin
>>>
>>> Le 09/10/2014 15:51, Graeme Gellatly a écrit :
>>> 
>> cite="mid:CAFmBtG3XKF9qrNGhmRqVF1ZLW+PibYcZpRMNeMm5cvBy1SDMGg@mail.gmail.com" >>> type="cite"> >>> >>> Omg. You are taking your model from a 1-10 user accounting system with no >>> concept of stock, no concept of anglosaxon, not even a concept of a sales >>> order really and literally quoting their CEO verbatim while inserting >>> screenshots of their product. >>> >>> Dont get me wrong, i like xero, i use xero, i have written integrations >>> between xero and openerp, in fact i own shares in xero, but this is either >>> crazy or odoo is abandoning anybody subject to anything but a small business >>> reporting standard. >>> >>> I feel sorry for partners. I think you just got screwed but at least the >>> direction is clear early. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >>> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >>> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 > Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com > Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe