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Re: New Odoo Crowdfunding: Beautiful Website Themes

by
Fabien Pinckaers
- 10/08/2014 08:03:12
Yes, and this campaign is a green and clear signal for designers:
there is a huge demand, you can design and sell themes on Odoo CMS.

PS: We are going to reach 200% of our initial goal in less than 24
hours! A great thanks to every contributor.
  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bootstrap-themes-for-odoo-cms

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Yannick Buron <yannick.buron@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very well, thank you for your clear and complete explanation.
>
> My point was, as you said, to keep a good balance on the choice whether your
> open-source or not a block. You gave your definition and I think it's a good
> one to keep incentive for themes while keeping the most important ones at
> the core, I am looking forward to see the result.
>
> About business model I wasn't speaking about a business model for Odoo SA
> (still thanks for the precision)  but a business model for designers which
> means it will attract new peoples inside the Odoo community. And this is an
> excellent thing for Odoo, I would say even say it's a requirement for the
> development of Odoo CMS.
>
> Again, nice move.
> Yannick.
>
> Le 08/10/2014 00:09, Fabien Pinckaers a écrit :
> 
cite="mid:CANRftatm8QeVR3MP5HaPO-1dzWXOKsGabjeJ4WFBbZzAAzTeMw@mail.gmail.com" > type="cite"> > >> I have some thoughts on this point. I am totally for proprietary themes, I >> believe this is a good business model which will also expand the use of Odoo >> CMS. > > From our side, it's not a business model. It's peanuts compared to Odoo > Enterprise revenues. Even on this campaign, I will probably loose a lot or > money. (But it's OK, it's an R&D investment for us) > > But it's the only way to get beautiful themes for the community. > > As an opposite to backend features, a customer will NEVER accept to have his > own design shared on the web. A website is personal. > > I am convinced we will not attract theme designs on Odoo through customer > projects. So, the only way to get awesome themes is to let designers invest > to create themes and sell them afterwards. Designers are less open minded > than developers. They will only design themes if they can sell them. > > Try to find open source bootstrap themes on the web; they are all ugly. > Whatever the platform (WordPress, magento, drupal), if you want something > clean you need to buy a theme. > > The other problem with themes is that we need a lot of them to cover all > industries / look and feel / colors... It's not only about investing to get > a few ones. We will need a model that produces hundreds/thousands of themes. > > For this we need to on board profesionnal designers on Odoo. So we need a > model so that they can be profitable building themes. > > In my opinion, this campaign is the first step: clean docs, 50 themes, 70 > building blocks. > > Then, the next step is to attract professional designers and agencies. But > we will take one year for this. > >> But about the building blocks, some of them will probably be so useful >> that they will be used by many projects and themes. Such generic and >> cross-themes blocks shall be included in code and AGPL I think, while blocks >> specific to one or two themes shall be closed source without problem. >> Like you I think there is a real potential in the blocks, and if they are >> at the core they will really demonstrate the power of Odoo CMS. This generic >> blocks will be needed by integrators anyway, do you share my point of view >> or do you think it's the role of the OCA to build the open-source generic >> blocks? >> >> Sincerely, great initiative, and already a great success from what I see. >> >> My 2cents, >> Yannick. >> >> >> >> Le 07/10/2014 21:49, Fabien Pinckaers a écrit : >>
> cite="mid:CANRftatH8JGS2A9rSXTjZi_Os7N2nQVdV5BsUKOKg+goAYn-+g@mail.gmail.com" >> type="cite"> >> >> > I asked this before on community list, but didn't get any official >> > response, so will try again... >> > What is the licencing model covering each of these "website" >> > developments? >> >> Quoting the Indiegogo campaign: (FAQ in the bottom) >> >> What license will these developments fall under? >> >> Every improvement of the website builder application will be released in >> open source (AGPL) and included in the official version of Odoo. This >> includes: the customization toolbox, an improved inline editor for perfect >> HTML pages. >> >> However the themes will not be open source. Once you purchase a license >> for a theme, you can use it on as many sites as you like, but you're not >> allowed to distribute it! >> >> Themes and building blocks are only data, not code. So, it's ok with agpl >> and you can deploy a theme on our saas. Data are just loaded in the DB, no >> module is added on our saas platform. >> >> > >> > Regards, >> > -Mario >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Fabien Pinckaers <fp@odoo.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> After the huge success of the Odoo Point of Sale crowdfunding campain, >> >> we just launched an Indiegogo campain for the Odoo Website Builder / >> >> eCommerce. Our goal is to take it to the next level by providing >> >> pixel-perfect professional themes and advanced building blocks. >> >> >> >> Get more information about the campaign here: >> >> http://bit.ly/1s6izlc >> >> >> >> As part of this project, we will design: >> >> - 50 profesionnal themes, highly customizable >> >> - 70 building blocks: forms builder, google maps integration... >> >> - a clean designer and developer documentation >> >> - improvements in the Odoo Website Builder core app >> >> >> >> Every theme and building blocks are fully customizable with a new >> >> toolbox to adapt to your own branding in just a few clicks. >> >> >> >> Help us fund this project and you will get either: >> >> - one theme of your choice for your own website: recommended for users >> >> - 50 themes you can reuse on any project unlimitedly: recommended for >> >> partners >> >> - 70 dynamic building blocks for additional features >> >> >> >> These themes will work on version 8 (no need to wait for v9). >> >> >> >> As a platform, the Odoo Website Builder is incredible. But to turn it >> >> into a huge success we need websites to be beautiful, out-of-the-box. >> >> That's the goal of this campaign. It just costs a theme (145€) to have >> >> a >> >> pixel perfect website, ready-to-use in a few minutes with awesome >> >> animations or building blocks. >> >> >> >> To reach our goal, we recruited 4 highly experienced web designers. (it >> >> took me 4 months to select the best ones in Belgium) The first theme, >> >> called "Clean", is ready with its 20 building blocks. As soon as you >> >> fund the project, you will directly receive the first theme. You will >> >> be >> >> able to select a theme amongst the 50 ones once the project if fully >> >> developed. (by the end of this year) >> >> >> >> Help us boost the Odoo Website Builder and offer a beautiful design for >> >> your website(s): http://bit.ly/1s6izlc >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Fabien Pinckaers >> >> Odoo Founder >> >> >> >> PS: the most interesting perk (pack of 50 themes & main sponsor) are >> >> limited to the firsts 8 contributors. >> >> PS1: the pack of 50 themes is perfect for partners as it will allow you >> >> to do beautiful and customized demonstrations to prospects, whatever >> >> the >> >> target industry. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >> >> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >> >> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >> > Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >> > Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >> Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com >> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 > Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com > Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 > Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com > Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe