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Re: Production Costing

by
David Arnold
- 08/20/2014 22:41:24

First, I want to say THANK YOU all!

Fakrudeen, your contribution (content and pad) seem a very good basis for discussion.

Raphael, as I understand you, this so far is private code, so you cannot share, nof even informally? It would be nice if we could as a community accompany your efforts in some way. Maybe the pad is a good reference point and a good tool to aggregate knowledge.

Ana, it is very interesting to hear your approach, if you like you can send it to me and i can translate and put it into the pad. (I think the pad is fine, if a better tool/place emerges, we can adapt. I think also the guidance Fakrudeen has given to his pad-initative is very good and clear. His initiative ownership seems just right to me. I'd love to see this discussion free of collaborating process discussions - that's why the parenthesis closes here :)

Hardianto, indeed this is a good question, I'm sure the theory has already found (probably multiple) answers. I'll have a look at my study book. I remember Activity-Based-Costing to be the most accurate form of generating meaningful accounting information all through favorized by the Professors. I'm sure you're fine with that I'm rephrasing your comment along with mine into Fakrudeen's pad.

El ago 20, 2014 8:13 PM, "Hardianto Darjoto" <hardi@telenais.com> escribió:

Hi all,

Another thing is how to calculate actual production cost per unit. Manpower and machine cost that we entered in workcenter config are standard cost, not actual cost.

In reality, manpower cost is recorded monthly by their actual payslip. Machine cost is recorded by their depreciation and utilities bills. So, we have to calculate these bulk costs back to each product that has been produced in such period.

We can calculate based on total products has been produced in that period. Or, we calculate based on activity record (manpowers n machines) for each product / production batch incurred.

So hopefully we can find a kind of solution here.

Hardianto Darjoto
Odoo - the new OpenERP
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On Aug 21, 2014 6:31 AM, "Ana Juaristi" <ajuaristio@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all:
The aproach we are building by now in odoomrp is very similar to the one defined by Frakudee on pad.
Technical aproach to cost controlling would be to use analytics (as we had for 6.1 in openmrp) but in an optimized way trying to reuse core as much as posible, defining simple analytic  structure.
We would have stimated cost for an order before launching it and real cost after finished.
We will have one project/analitic account including several MO
Each cost type would be an analytic journal
Each cost imputation would be an analytic line
Cost type to be included would be consumed materials, operators working time, machines/work centers working time, other costs....
I'm not available this week but i will be next one to write detailed way the aproach and technical focus we have defined in order to try to share efforts and not duplicate work. So please give me a few days to translate our requirements to english and share on pad.
At this point, IMHO we need again some OCA guidance since I don't know if simply using pad as tool for sharing ideas is enough or we should start a task somewhere else.
Thank you:
Ana

El 20/08/2014 19:29, <rvalyi@akretion.com> escribió:
Hello all,

as for getting the cost from the consumed products during a production order, at Akretion we are currently adapting a development made in Spain (by an other team) in a Brazilian venture of the Spanish company. Basically the code is a bit messed up with the specific customer requirements and it was done quite dirty in 6.1 (like a 1 man year project), we are adapting that for v8. The budget dedicated to that porting is sadly probably too low to refactor that module to reach some OCA quality or even to abstract away customer specifics. And the remaining before the go live won't give us a chance either.

So eventually we find our the resource later to clean that up. So there is a chance we contribute that in a 10 months timeframe, but no promise. You could contact us if you feel you can help that. Sadly this that code is a bit of a mess today and not written by us, so we cannot just throw it on the Internet on our own initiative. We are working out the customer mind to make him aware getting modules OCA published means sustainable maintenance costs, but coming to the open source logic takes some time...

Specifically that code account for every single production order to update the product cost from the products actually consumed (not simple what's is in the BOM).
It also accounts for the labour spent during each production cycle.

Regards.



On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Fakrudeen Abbaz <fakrudeenabbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

 

Let’s start with the basic

Please go through the Etherpad I have created for Production Costing

 

https://pad.odoo.com/p/Production_Costing

 

Fakrudeen Abbaz

From: David Arnold [mailto:dar@devco.co]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:47 PM
To: Community
Subject: Production Costing

 

Hi!

 

Maybe someone can give me a hint how to approach production costing?

 

1. Is this one of Odoo's MRP capabilities without heavy extra development?

2. If not, do you know of a specific project/module which provides such capabilities? (I coudn't find anything on the OCA)

 

Saludos Cordiales

David Arnold

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