Community mailing list archives

community@mail.odoo.com

Re: Mexican localization

by
Andi Becker
- 10/19/2016 10:37:06
Dave this is not correct

It is the way how that data has to be provided.

Take i.e. a complete download of your Facebook and Facebook page Accounts. You will be still be able to manoever through it.
This is not possible if you have only the database and some cryptic file links etc. 

You would need to recreate all the logic to perhaps even achieve the result pages! Which means start over and use your data in either Enterprise Odoo again to check or try to get your data imported into another system.

You and your telephony company are having a minimal problem concerning that. You won't have at all complex business processes which at the end will form the output presented to governments and this logic is NOT at all stored in the database it is stored in Odoo and module files.

running the application to get access to the data is mad

it is not mad at all. WE call it user friendly and future proof!

With kind regards



On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Dave Ellison <dave.e@time-tele.com> wrote:

Hi,


I have been watching this thread and totally agree with Fabien. All services like this will, even if there is a fee, get a data dump of some form. The data is owned by the customer, not the supplier. Any SaaS will provide your data for migration or just purely because you need longer want the service. It's your right, as it's your property. Have a way of running the application to get access to the data is mad and complaining there should be a way is just wrong, because of retention or otherwise.


We write telephony software and part of it is a recording system. When a customer no longer wants to pay for the support contract, the license dies and we have a process for getting the call data and audio to the customer. It's up to them to re load the data or just store it for referring to.


It is not the task of Odoo to keep the application running, because your local laws demand you keep records for x number of years. It is down to you the owner of the data to keep a copy, making it available if required by authorities.


Kind regards

Dave


From: Fabien Pinckaers <fp@odoo.com>
Sent: 19 October 2016 14:56:58
To: Community
Subject: Re: Mexican localization
 

But companies are legally required to keep their records for periods that can vary from 5 to 10 years, sometimes more. 

The above makes it ERP SaaS not a viable option for most businesses.

That's what you say but it's not our feedback from the market. (in terms of customers feedback & sales figures)
 
Whether you use Odoo Enterprise or Odoo Online, you always have access to your data through PostgreSQL. It's not an issue. I don't think we have lost a single customer based on that assumption (we have 4000+ customers). It's a common practice in the industry: if you don't pay for your software, you can not use it anymore. (but you still own your own data through an open format: PostgreSQL)

With Odoo Online, you can download your DB at any time and access with PSQL, on Odoo Enterprise or keep a 1-user DB and desactivate all others user to access through the enterprise UI if you prefer.


The whole eco-system / business model of Odoo relies on extra features in Odoo Enterprise that are not in Odoo Community. And this model allows us to finance both the evolution of Enterprise and Community editions. So, it's a good thing.

Having a path to keep using the Enterprise features without having to pay for it (e.g. putting these features in Odoo Community, directly or through third party apps) is a non sense and would kill the sustainability of Odoo (as a company and product) in the long term. It's a good thing to have features in Odoo Enterprise that are not in Odoo Community.



-- 
Fabien

_______________________________________________
Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59
Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com
Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe

_______________________________________________
Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59
Post to: mailto:community@mail.odoo.com
Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe