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Re: SV: SV: Odoo EE database expiredby
Fortunately we don't rely so much on mrp and other only enterprise stuff. And the accounting part really needs even in Enterprise Edition a lot of customization to make it even usable for the market here. In that point Version 8 was much better adjusted to the market here.
Actually people will get stuck either way.
Using Version 8 they will run lifetime on more or less than outdated stuff.
Using Version 10 Enterprise they will get stuck if they need for whatever reason away to a more affordable solution - which is often the case with NOGO organizations when funding does not work as good as before to run an enterprise solution. For usual companies it is pretty similar especially in times of recessions or uncertainty like right now!
Version 9 we don't recommend anymore since months as it would be again outdated, even it has meanwhile more modules. But as development for community modules in Version 9 was very very slow and by far did not reach what was available in Version 8, a lot of custom stuff had to be done already und LGPL which won't get shared if the customer does not want to share it, which is unfortunately often the case but understandable as they paid for it. This was much much better with Version 8 AGPL where this question was simply not existing share or not share - and this was for the benefit for all who use Odoo.
I guess that also the development with Version 10 will be pretty similar in puncto custom modules or community modules even we have realized that a lot of companies already published versions for Version 10 even they had skipped the Version 9. Which means in Version 10 are community modules available which aren't in Version 9 probably. Mostly because they started using the new API and are still using the old Version 8 one probably in Version 9.
And again the roadmap for 11 12 etc is not very clear and predictable - also for the fact when the move to Python 3 will come!
But our devs said that most of the Version 10 code will already work with python 3 so that is a very good sign!
I am sure if Odoo themselves would provide a much better way to do a version upgrade without breaking basic stuff (which means even their own module stuff) than many more companies would have already switched from 6 or 8 to the latest versions, which would create lots of jobs and opportunities for odoo themselves too.
You can do that and get stuck forever in v8... Spanish contributors have learnt it the hard way with a similar decision in 6.0 or 6.1Given how powerful has become v10, this is a move that you need to think carefully. Not saying that v8 is not good enough for most of the business but you need to think as well about evolution.I guess all are logged out according to the vendor login structure of the enterprise agreement everybody who uses the enterprise version knows actually before - if they read it!
This fact is one main reason why some customers - who read and understand the enterprise agreement - refrain from using the Enterprise Version and instead use either still Version 8 which is the last fully available Version or who hire developers to implement their additional features, which than often duplicate more or less the Enterprise features by - what is called - rewriting the code of Enterprise Version and adding one or 2 custom features the enterprise Version does not have - As it is LGPL it won't need to be released either and that is than the reason why those additional developments which probably even come from partners won't be visible for the community either, unless the customer releases it.
The database won't expire but the customer won't be able to use it unless he does the custom development described for an enterprise like feature.
For sure customers are very happy to have all their data in a huge database which they can't use and which actually also won't even work in a community version without those additional customizations.
Are all users restricted from logging in at this point or will the administrator still be able to log in? Rather than being completely locked out of one's own data it would seem more reasonable to fail gracefully while any licensing mishaps are being resolved.
Scott Saunders Asphalt Zipper, Inc. IT/Systems Analyst (801) 785-0706 x116On 10/17/2016 06:09 AM, Visti Kristensen wrote:
If you want to move it down to community they say it can be done, but I’m sure it’s not that easy as you have to export everything and import it again in community version.
Someone asked that question in one of the XP16 events
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so in this case the db will not expire but the customer lost the Odoo EE functionality?
Il 17.10.2016 13:49, Visti Kristensen ha scritto:
Not really that complex…
Just read the Odoo Enterprise Subscription Agreement.
Newest version is here: https://www.odoo.com/
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I have another use case to solve:
a customer subscribe Odoo EE for 1 year (or 2) after that he didn't renew the Odoo EE.
In this case at the end of period the database will expire?
Il 14.10.2016 17:03, Bassirou Ndaw ha scritto:
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to be legally ethically acceptable, the server should have preventedyou to create more users, or should block extra-users.This is forced sale because the admin who manages users is probablynot the one who manages the contract.Providing a possibility to block the contract will certainly bediscovered as an obligation in the near future.
2016-10-14 7:27 GMT+02:00 Fabien Pinckaers <email@example.com>:
> Here is the process:>
> If a customer go above the maximum limit of users he purchases:> - he gets a message in the home with a link to upgrade his subscription for> 30 days.> - if he doesnt upgrade his subscription within the 30 days, the system will> stop> - if the system shutdowns, he can still contact us to reactivate it>
> To avoid any issue, we recommend to: respect maximum number is users or> contact us to extend if you want more. If the message appears because you> have more users than purchased, don't wait to much before payment. (Write> transfers can take a few days to be processed)>
> --> Fabien>
> On Oct 14, 2016 5:22 AM, "Kitti U." <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:>
> Dear community>
> One of my client is using EE, for some valid reason, they have used more> users than the bought license being registered in the system (now they are> sorting out how to resolve this with Odoo SA).>
> As nowadays, Odoo SA have mechanism to ping every server and set database> expire in the server which will show on the screen (which is not yet> critical).>
> Technically, what will happen after passing the expiry date? Will Odoo force> shutdown the server or something. Anyone have such experiences?>
> >From system point, it is a critical system and can't be shutdown.>
> Thank you very mcuh,>
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