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RE: Odoo vs Apache OFBiz?

by
hans.yonathan
- 07/07/2016 07:04:19

Yes, I am very agree with this.

Honestly have a different user interface between the enterprise and community edition is very bad idea.


The problem is:

1.       For us the consultant or someone that work on it, need to learn 2 kind of user interface

2.       When we developed something that improved the feature that related to the javacript and qweb xml, we must do it both for enterprise version and community version. The module cannot be worked both of it, we need to developed it separately.

 

I am really wish, Odoo just keep the same user interface between community and enterprise.

You can just developed a module that has very added value feature to the enterprise, but not affect the user interface.

 

Thank You.

 

Best Regards,

Hans Yonathan

CTO

FALINWA Limited

Expert in Finance, Information System & Business Intelligence

Odoo Gold Partner

Website: www.falinwa.com

Tel. 13670137019 (China - Shenzhen)

 

From: Stephen Raj [mailto:stephenbiit@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:35 PM
To: Community <community@mail.odoo.com>
Subject: Re: Odoo vs Apache OFBiz?

 

Hi Fabien,

 

- the community version is very important to Odoo
- we have no plan to let the community version down, and it will always be a great product for users

 

 

Surely odoo community version is downgrading.

 

Reason:

  1. The menus are well organized in odoo v8. But the menus are not organized properly in odoo v9 community. I've attached screens. Please have a look at it. PFA: Human Resources - V8, V9

  2. Changing the Fiscal Year is missing in odoo v9 which was present in odoo v8

  3. Bulk Payments is missing in odoo v9 which was present in odoo v8

  4. Diagrammatic representation of Workflows is  missing in odoo v9 which was present in odoo v8

 

Other Suggestion:

  1. Suggestion: Landing Page lags in loading. Even Google's gmail has a Loading page/Splash Screen. PFA: Splash or Loading Screen.

  2. Include Material Design in community edition

Thank you 

 

 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Christophe Hanon <chanon@adins.com> wrote:

Fabien,

 

>>You are wrong. Let me repeat it one more time:

>>- the community version is very important to Odoo
>>- we have no plan to let the community version down, and it will always be a great product for users
>>- the community version will continue to improve quickly as we invest in it, and community members contribute to it.

 

It is good to read and I acknowledge that we are many to make a living from what you share... And I am 100% supporting a mix between open-source core and commercial addons.

 

However, the way Odoo has managed the split between community and enterprise is not that bright. For example, I cannot imagine a second somebody doing accounting on V9 with the community edition (I am not talking about improvement from other partners or OCA). So I consider community V9 as a kind of serious downgrade compare to V8. I think this is is sad and does not help to convince customer about the product future.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Christophe

 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Andreas Becker <andi@lisandi.com> wrote:

 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:41 AM, Fabien Pinckaers <fp@odoo.com> wrote:

You are wrong. Let me repeat it one more time:
- the community version is very important to Odoo
- we have no plan to let the community version down, and it will always be a great product for users
- the community version will continue to improve quickly as we invest in it, and community members contribute to it.


This is true for all so called Open Source Projects which have their closed source projects running in parallel.

1. & 2. The community version is usually part of their business model as it is a much cheaper way to test out things and get much more feedback from those who than might be interested in the Enterprise Edition too. Also most of those projects would have a bit of a problem when they would close down the community project completely. People would fork it and even take the most of the community with them. To avoid such a scenario those companies which have their main focus on the enterprise edition will simply continue the support for the community version and contribute all stuff to it which benefits also the enterprise edition but what simply would depend also on that community edition and is no real risk so that the community edition would get better than enterprise.

3. Exactly community members are a great resource for all companies who build on open source software projects. The same applies to those who build their feature rich Enterprise Versions on it too.

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Concerning OfBiz I agree 100% with Nhomar and Ferdinand. Simply stay away from it as it will be a dead end seen longterm.
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This is what they say and it is pretty similar to how Odoo S.A. is presenting Odoo. 
Beside this it is Java too. ;-)

Real alternatives to Odoo you would need to search elsewhere than in the Java world.

Have you checked out Tryton - It might fit your needs the best if you are not happy with the business model of Odoo. Tryton had been forked from Odoo, it is already in Python 3 it has great modules in community edition which you would only get in the enterprise edition of Odoo. This might be the best alternative to what you are looking for.

ERPNext is very good and suites your needs to but it has no website builder!

The website builder of Odoo is actually a feature hardly to find in other ERP Systems and the one of Odoo is really good and one main reason why especially smaller companies start being very interested in Odoo. They start with their website and add more and more features later on and than perhaps even move to Enterprise.

If your customers are looking for a real easy to manage system which has most of features of odoo but most of them with much better usability for endusers than try the newcomer. http://www.inoideas.org/
It is really worth giving it a try. It is 100% opensource and has a very fast growing community around them as more and more people seem to try and switch or enhance their portfolio with it. It has very intuitive interfaces, The CMS is build in and you won't have any more problems to build reports and formulars as it is really easy!

But as said it is a newcomer and most people haven't probably not even heard about it until now. New kids on the block have their own image problems while Odoo has already a proven record of customers which us Odoo - This can change fast in future if more and more features will only be available in Enterprise Versions of ERP and eCommerce Systems. Its pullsystem and MRP are exceptional well done and easy to handle - Odoo could learn from them! Most hosters can host it without any problem as it is written in PHP 5.5 and using MySQL/MariaDB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLI9s_lIFpC099xADLymQcDCmrDhnkxcjM&v=AS8idx2Cg_U


All of those systems have their benefits and their downsides and I suggest that you best choose the system which suites you the best and which gives you the best run longterm!

Andi

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