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Re: Odoo: Understand Culture & Management

by
Cody Kitterman
- 05/21/2016 11:16:43
Robert:

     What do you think about Odoo implementing something like gitchangelog: "use your commit log to make beautiful and configurable changelog file"? 

It's compatible with Python 2/3, works on Linux/BSD/MacOSX, and it's default output is ReSTructured text (which is what the doc's are using now).

It could be made to fit nicely with Odoo's Commit message conventions, assuming they were expanded (SEE "Action", "Audience", "Tags"), and would address some of your concerns:
"the actual documentation was a huge source of frustration. Just this week one of my office colleagues who tried to learn how to create a web site creator snippet gave up in frustration. The documentation is just wrong ..
And I learned myself that the JavaScript API documentation  is mostly V8 based and of little value for V9. Unless, of course you know what has changed between v8 and v9. For which I found no documentation at all.."
Developers could review these and update their modules and Odoo's documentation.

R/S
Cody Kitterman


On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 8:16 AM, <robert@redcor.ch> wrote:
Am 2016-05-20 17:41, schrieb Nhomar Hernandez:
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Carlos Liébana
> <carlos.liebana@factorlibre.com> wrote:
> 
>> I admire your patience, Fabien.
> 
> Me too!
> 
> My personal answer should be less political ;-)

Nhorman,

no need to be political here.
well founded is enough.

pray, what would your not so political aswer be?

robert

> 
>> 2016-05-20 17:17 GMT+02:00 Fabien Pinckaers <fp@odoo.com>:
>> 
>> There seems to be missing a chapter that explains why it is bad to
>> answer questions or cooperating with the community when shaping core
>> or future of odoo.
>> 
>> Sorry, I don't get your point?
>> 
>> We try to share a maximum (although we can certainly do more) and
>> explain things we do. As an example, yesterday, we had a partner
>> meeting with partners to discuss about the strategy, roadmap,
>> business, etc. (you should have participated by the way)
>> 
>> Can you send me example of issues you have had in private:
>> fp@odoo.com?
>> 
>> And when you add this chapter it might include explanations why
>> odoo should avoid to train and educate the developer "out there" on
>> a constant base and why it is evil to give the the impression that
>> they are an important and respected part of odoo.
>> List of projects we do to train and educate:
>> 
>> - A lot of documentation (both developer and functional) (*)
>> - We often share documents on any topic (business, competitors,
>> features, etc.): http://odoo.com/slides [1]
>> - We organize free webinars every week. (some for partners, others
>> are public): https://odoo.com/events [2]
>> - When launching big features, we do a tour worldwide in >10 cities,
>> e.g.: https://t.co/QZncTlWVUP [3]
>> - Partners get a free access to the sales academy in Belgium (one
>> week full training)
>> - In addition to regular events/meetups, once a year, we do 180 free
>> conferences during Odoo Experience
>> - We help new visitors through the live chat on our website
>> 
>> - We have setup great community tools: mailing lists, forum,
>> transifex, ...
>> - We wrote a New API to ease developers on boarding and experience
>> 
>> For sure, we can do more. But I don't understand why you have the
>> feeling that we try to not educate people. We actually try very hard
>> to educate and inform developers and users; But Odoo is huge and
>> evolving very quickly, so it's not easy. So, for sure, we can
>> probably do more.
>> 
>> (*) yesterday we improved the global navigation of the
>> documentations, check on the website:
>> https://www.odoo.com/documentation [4]
>> 
>> --
>> Fabien
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