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Re: Should Odoo keep the old API for v10?

Ermin Trevisan
- 05/12/2016 02:54:35
1. During evolution of mankind a concept became successful, the concept
of "Community". A basic principle of "Community" is to give AND take.
Communities need and try to expell members, which do not respect this
basic principle in order to be successful.
A proper balance of give and take creates respect and respect is
necessary in order gain influence in the community. Respect is also owed
to the contributors to the community.
Open Source is based on and relies on the community principle.
I could not find a single line of code provided to the community from
Andi, I could not find a single translated word from Andi, the time it
needs to write one of his endless posts is sufficient to translate a
complete module. I do not remember having Andi seen in Odoo's help forum
providing support to others.

2. I'm not a developer, but I do understand that migrations such as
Python 3 are necessary, it is a question of priority, timeframe and
efforts needed. I'm very sure that everybody in the community is aware
of that and the discussion started already long time ago before Andi
jumped on the bandwagon. So there is no need to endlessly beat a dead horse.

3. In order to stress his own agenda and priorities, Andi seems to me
pretending an image of Odoo customers, which is more than strange to me,
atleast I have never found such a customer.
According to Andi's posts, the typical Odoo customer:
- urgently needs Hetzner Hosting (and therefore can not use Postgres)
- is dependent on Python 3 in order to avoid bankruptcy of his business
- will depend on any other technical preliminaries, which will come up
at any time.

My typical customer is looking for an attractive, affordable and usable
360° business vertical solution which helps him improve his business
competitiveness. My customer does not ask for Python 3, but he asks for
example if it is possible to change side dishes on the fly in the
restaurant POS, because this is a necessity for his business.

Just my 2cents, but enough said, sorry for this long post....

On 12.05.2016 07:12, robert rottermann wrote:
> On 12.05.2016 00:42, Nhomar Hernandez wrote:
>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Graeme Gellatly
>> > <>> wrote:
>>     Generally it is larger integrators and developers with larger
>>     customers funding those who don't want to pay for anything.  Their
>>     migration timelines are naturally slower than the little free
>>     bunch who want everything for nothing yesterday.  If there are
>>     modules you need migrated, either fund it or do it.  Complaining
>>     is pointless.
> I do not like to read the andis longish rants very much.
> But nevertheless i believe the above is a stupid, community unfriendly
> argumentation that goes very much against the gist of open source.
> I am still a freshman so my impression might be due to my ignorance. But
> I fail to find a strong community of  developers that together with a
> "benevolent dictator" (aka fabien/odoo sa) analyzes the needs of the
> market and *collectively *create the needed tools.
> It is an ESSENTIAL part of the open source philosophy, that you can
> benefit from its wealth WITHOUT contributing to it.
> This said, I believe that the andis of this world are an important part
> of both  the OO- and the odoo-community.
> robert
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