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Re: Chart of Account structure & Financial year closing in Odoo 9

by
Graeme Gellatly
- 01/27/2016 02:44:45

Absolutely different but wouldn't say which. It would be mental for them to use xero, it just isn't designed for even a midsized business let alone a company with global aspirations that needs to provide public market information to IFRS standards.


On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 8:18 PM Bevan Weiss <kaizen__@hotmail.com> wrote:

Do you have a link?
I tried googling and got nothing.
I know they have the rate limited API, but I'd expect they'd have an internal interface without this, and with other optimisations for their particular workflow.
Did he say it was actually a different brand? I'm wondering if it might just be different than the Xero 'product', but still from a similar code base

Bevan

On 27 Jan 2016 2:12 pm, Graeme Gellatly <gdgellatly@gmail.com> wrote:

It isn't xero. Evidence is straight from the CEO where he was asked during a nz ict conference.


On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 5:52 PM Vishnu D <vishnu.pkr@gmail.com> wrote:

Hierarchy chart of accounts for Odoo 9 Enterprise is coming on the SaaS.

https://twitter.com/fpodoo/status/692022981388865537/photo/1



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On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Janeesh Alayi <nbrjaneesh@gmail.com> wrote:

@Fabien,

View account is the termonology used in odoo but accountants using the word 'control' account. In my previous mail i have shared an example of how the accounts are categorised in one of the client. Summary reports are very important for all the companies as always they don't want to take the complete details of all accounts. P&L and Balance Sheet are again needs to be splitted into different categories. I have worked with many clients and made custom excel reports for Trial Balance, P&L and Balance sheet. Every companies are not using the same report, they will have their own structure. In all these reports view accounts were very important for splitting reports into different sections. Now with the new structure it's difficult to convince the end-users (they are using the softwares not odoo developers). It's difficult to upgrade to the latest version for those companies who are currently using odoo as the business software.

On Jan 22, 2016 1:41 AM, "Fabien Pinckaers" <fp@odoo.com> wrote:

The accountant is the end user who will use the system, So let's discuss from his view, not from software engineering view,

If you consider my opinion, here is:-
Accounting 9 is very good version, but has critical points are changed which will prevent applying it in many countries like middle east countries as they considered it ABC accounting:-

1- removing old view account (which will represent child accounts balance)

Sorry, but I don't know a single accountant (not coming from Odoo) that knows what's a "view" account or a parent-child account. It is a developer concept that is not related to accounting at all. Accountant work with P&L, Balance Sheet and Trial Ledgers. (they expect it to be hierarchically structured, but it's not their job to do it, it's standard and should be provided by the software. Exactly as we do in reports in Odoo 9)

In that regard, Odoo 9 is much more accountant-friendly than Odoo 8. At least, now, they can import their Chart of Account easily or have reports that are not broken because they did not set the parent field. (our own accountant complained several time about Odoo having broken reports. It was because she created an account with no/wrong parent. All she saw is that the reporting were broken. And she was right, it shouldn't have to be her role to define how to structure a trial balance)
 

2- Removing Open/close fiscal periods,
I know that there is an option to close till specific date, but again it is ABC concept for accountants, also they may close period 3 and let period 1 is opened to enter enteries,

Removing periods/fiscal years is a decision we took to improve usability. I explained the reasoning a lot in the past (you should find emails in this mailing list) A side effect of all these improvements (there are really a LOT of PROs) is that we can close only at a specific date. I guess it works fine for 95% of the companies. Because if you absolutely need that feature, I recommend to go for a community module.

Suggestion:-
I suggest Odoo add the above to points as options in setting, so the admin can activate it or use the current solution

No, we don't like options and we avoid them when we can. Here is the reason:

Thanks for the feedback,

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Fabien

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