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Re: Rules for new Posts in the Community

by
Mohamed Magdy
- 10/14/2015 07:40:31
@Ermin,
If you were me, you would not say the same :)
But I am still working on some projects for the community and will be published once get ready.
I liked your words about the first child.

@Naran,
I was attacked once I published the idea, the same happened with my brother. I will not mention names, but there were others who published their uncompleted works on Udemy and never attacked. They completed it later.


@Nuria,
Yes, I have both negative and positive feedback but the majority was the negative feedback. 
Yes, it does not reflect the community, that's why I will proceed to work on some projects for the community.

Thank you for your kind words:)


@Ahmed,
It is a great idea, I think I will change my name :)


@Robert,
I was talking about events in a few months ago, it is not about this thread so I think you missed the previous emails.
I agree with you to stop this discussion, that's what I said in my last reply.


Thank you all for your kind words :)


Best Regards,

Mohamed Magdy
Odoo Technical Team Leader
Mob 1: +201114347478
Mob 2: +201095179215

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Ermin Trevisan <trevi@twanda.com> wrote:
With all due respect personally and for the work done and provided, but
it's time to overcome the bad feelings about a maybe not so fair
treatment and to move forward. Go ahead with the good work, promote it
as others do now and if the community eventually likes to establish some
rules, it will happen.

The first born child will always be beaten up harder than the followers :-)



On 14.10.2015 09:03, Mohamed Magdy wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I really appreciate your interaction with this email, I was watching it
> for 2 days and was waiting to see what if we can build the rules but I
> am really disappointed. There was no a single rule except the suggestion
> from Mr. Robert Rottermann to mark the email as a 'Promotion', I liked
> his idea :)
> 
> I can see that most of -not all- members do not mind to
> get announcements, but it was not the case with me and my brother (Ahmed).
> I will try to explain what I have:
> *For me:*
> There was _no single online training_ anywhere before mine, when I
> published it, guess what? You all attacked me. The others who came after
> me *DID A GREAT JOB *for Functional and Technical online training but no
> one attacked them.
> *Mr. Eric:* you said :
> 
>     / I personally think that if people comes straightforward and
>     announce that this is paid content, the community will get less
>     frustrated./
> 
> I was clear about this but they attacked me.
>  
> *For Ahmed:*
> There was n_o single theme for backend_and when someone asked about
> the availability of such theme my brother just answered him, it was not
> an announcement, Guess what? You all attacked him. The other who came
> after him, *WHO DID A GREAT JOB TOO*, no one attacked him.
> 
> *==> /Is it about the new ideas? or just about Magdy's sons?
> /*If it is about new ideas, we still have new ideas that no one worked
> on it yet. we can publish it somewhere else. If it is about Magdy's
> name, we can change it.
> 
> 
> @Mr. Eric, We need rules that suit Community Mailing List (CML) not to
> suit everybody's objectives.
> 
> 
> No one has to reply as I can see we are not able to list a reasonable rules.
> I and Ahmed will do our best for the community either by paid or free
> stuff for Odoo Community.
> 
> 👍Thank you all👍
>   
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Mohamed Magdy
> Odoo Technical Team Leader
> LinkedIn 
> Mob 1: +201114347478
> Mob 2: +201095179215
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:27 PM, zahid jalal <j.zahid@gmail.com
> <mailto:j.zahid@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     +1 Eric
> 
> 
>     *SSLL, Intégrateur Odoo.
>     *
>     *Intégration de Services.
>     *
>     *BI and IT consulting.*
>     j.zahid@auriumtechnologies.com <mailto:j.zahid@auriumtechnologies.com>
>     tél  0661360233 - 0636898882
>     fax 0528215738
>     www.auriumtechnologies.com 
> 
>     On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Caudal Eric <caudaleric@gmail.com
>     <mailto:caudaleric@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Not sure there is a clear rule here that will suit everybody's
>         objectives.
>         Some will like to stay tuned with latest discovery (paid or not)
>         while the purist will advocate for a "no-ads" policy.
> 
>         What bothers me more is the typical mail: "Please check this
>         wonderful feature" and discover later that this is not open source.
>         Second most distasteful would be if we would receive within this
>         ML constant solicitations about off-shore odoo services (like in
>         my spam folder) which is actually not the case today (and
>         hopefully in the future). Other than that, actually I try to
>         stay open to any tendency, paid or not.
>         Last but not least, you get the lost people asking for support
>         of the Odoo online offer...
> 
>         Now, it is difficult to strictly forbid commercial content, all
>         the more with the direction taken by Odoo sa (then any question
>         on Odoo Enterprise or the apps would be technically tagged
>         "commercial"). I personally think that if people comes
>         straightforward and announce that this is paid content, the
>         community will get less frustrated.
> 
>         And for pure purist I suggest that you contact the OCA ML in
>         which for sure there will be no commercial solicitations :).
> 
> 
>         On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:10 PM Gilles Dupont
>          wrote:
> 
>             I'm always interested in reading about new modules, free or
>             paid. 
> 
>             On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ana Juaristi
>              wrote:
> 
>                 +1 Oleg
>                 On the other side i see also rigth and helpfull that 
>                 people promoting modules puts an advertising on email
>                 title just to know before opening.
> 
>                 About trainings and events I think they should also be
>                 announced on the list and at less onsite/online
>                 community organized  trainings should be published on
>                 oca website events page even if they are paid ones.
> 
>                 Just my humble opinion
> 
>                 El 12/10/2015 09:36, "Oleg Kuryan"
>                 
>                 escribió:
> 
>                     Hi,
> 
>                     Community mailing lists contains not only companies
>                     involved into Odoo development / consulting, but
>                     also end users who would like to use Odoo for their
>                     business. I believe they are very interested in
>                     getting information not only about free
>                     contributions but also paid modules.
> 
>                     THere are many useful modules there that for some
>                     reason are not in standard Odoo. Good example is Org
>                     Chart
>                     module
>                     (not advertisement, I haven't develoed it =) ). My
>                     opinion is that:
>                     1) For paid modules on Odoo Apps OpenERP S.A. need
>                     to create digest where anybody can subscribe and get
>                     digest of latest added modules. 
>                     2) Regarding community list - if somebody asks about
>                     desired functionality, community rules shouldn't
>                     restrict providing links to paid apps / modules. It
>                     is really limiting users in their choice to only
>                     open source modules that may not close their needs.
> 
>                     And regarding contributions mailing list that
>                     Alexandre mentions - really that is the good way to
>                     isolate yourself from receiving undesired messages.
>                     But also it is needed to understand that for people
>                     who just joined  Odoo community it is very hard to
>                     understand a variety of mailing lists and
>                     organizations around Odoo. Basically nobody cares. 
> 
>                     So Community mailing list is good single entry point
>                     that is easy to understand and easy to join. Do not
>                     see real reason to make it too complex.
> 
> 
>                     ///
> 
>                     Best Regards,
>                     Oleg Kuryan
> 
>                     Technical Director, XPANSA Group | ERP, BI,
>                     E-commerce, Data Mining and DMS consulting
>                     *Xpansa has developed first full Odoo Android App
>                     called mERP. Download
>                     at *https://play.google.com/merp
>                     
>                     /// site  : _xpansa.com _
>                     /// mail  : oleg.kuryan@xpansa.com
>                     <mailto:oleg.kuryan@xpansa.com>
>                     /// phone : +375293358638
>                     /// skype : kuryan.oleg
> 
>                     On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Alexandre Fayolle
>                     <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com
> <mailto:alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com>> wrote: > > For the record, the OCA has a mailing list for > its members, and another one for its > contributors. While you obviously need to be a > member to post on the former, the latter is open > to anyone, and it is a nice place to discuss > contributions to the OCA. Alexandre On > 11/10/2015 21:24, James Fox wrote: > Mohamed, > > > > As it is officially sanctioned by Odoo SA to > have paid for modules on > the odoo platform > then nobody should be allowed to say that these > are > not allowed to be mentioned on the > community mailing list - after all > they may > well be relevant to all members of the list and > this may have > been exactly why they joined the > list in the first place. Whoever > criticised > you or your brother should hang their heads in > shame and > publically apologise to you on this > list. > > If there are some people who cannot > bear to read about paid for modules > on this > mailing list then they should persuade the OCA > or someone else > to set up a mailing list where > they can discuss whatever it is they like > in a > world of AGPL purity and not trouble everyone > else with their out > of date opinions on the > official Odoo SA mailing list here. > > James > > > ==================== > Alfa Industrial > Components > Litton House, Saville Road, > Peterborough, Cambs, PE3 7PR, UK > Tel 03333 > 441658 Fax 03333 441659 > > www.alfa-industrial.com > > > ==================== > > > >> Totally agree with > you mohamed >> >> >> *SSLL, Intégrateur Odoo. >> > * >> *Intégration de Services. >> * >> *BI and > IT consulting.* >> > j.zahid@auriumtechnologies.com > <mailto:j.zahid@auriumtechnologies.com
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