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Re: Rules for new Posts in the Communityby
Not all of us attacked you. It's quite a strong statement, and I see why you were hurt, but you are being unfair now.
I would suggest that you try to remember supportive words as well, and to bare in mind that the bad feeling that a few cost you does not reflect the entire community.
On 14/10/15 08:03, Mohamed Magdy wrote:
I really appreciate your interaction with this email, I was watching it for 2 days and was waiting to see what if we can build the rules but I am really disappointed. There was no a single rule except the suggestion from Mr. Robert Rottermann to mark the email as a 'Promotion', I liked his idea :)
I can see that most of -not all- members do not mind to get announcements, but it was not the case with me and my brother (Ahmed).
I will try to explain what I have:
There was no single online training anywhere before mine, when I published it, guess what? You all attacked me. The others who came after me DID A GREAT JOB for Functional and Technical online training but no one attacked them.
Mr. Eric: you said :
I personally think that if people comes straightforward and announce that this is paid content, the community will get less frustrated.
There was no single theme for backend and when someone asked about the availability of such theme my brother just answered him, it was not an announcement, Guess what? You all attacked him. The other who came after him, WHO DID A GREAT JOB TOO, no one attacked him.
==> Is it about the new ideas? or just about Magdy's sons?
If it is about new ideas, we still have new ideas that no one worked on it yet. we can publish it somewhere else. If it is about Magdy's name, we can change it.
@Mr. Eric, We need rules that suit Community Mailing List (CML) not to suit everybody's objectives.
No one has to reply as I can see we are not able to list a reasonable rules.
I and Ahmed will do our best for the community either by paid or free stuff for Odoo Community.
👍Thank you all👍
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Caudal Eric <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Not sure there is a clear rule here that will suit everybody's objectives.Some will like to stay tuned with latest discovery (paid or not) while the purist will advocate for a "no-ads" policy.
What bothers me more is the typical mail: "Please check this wonderful feature" and discover later that this is not open source.Second most distasteful would be if we would receive within this ML constant solicitations about off-shore odoo services (like in my spam folder) which is actually not the case today (and hopefully in the future). Other than that, actually I try to stay open to any tendency, paid or not.Last but not least, you get the lost people asking for support of the Odoo online offer...
Now, it is difficult to strictly forbid commercial content, all the more with the direction taken by Odoo sa (then any question on Odoo Enterprise or the apps would be technically tagged "commercial"). I personally think that if people comes straightforward and announce that this is paid content, the community will get less frustrated.
And for pure purist I suggest that you contact the OCA ML in which for sure there will be no commercial solicitations :).
I'm always interested in reading about new modules, free or paid.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ana Juaristi <email@example.com> wrote:
On the other side i see also rigth and helpfull that people promoting modules puts an advertising on email title just to know before opening.
About trainings and events I think they should also be announced on the list and at less onsite/online community organized trainings should be published on oca website events page even if they are paid ones.
Just my humble opinionHi,
Community mailing lists contains not only companies involved into Odoo development / consulting, but also end users who would like to use Odoo for their business. I believe they are very interested in getting information not only about free contributions but also paid modules.
THere are many useful modules there that for some reason are not in standard Odoo. Good example is Org Chart module (not advertisement, I haven't develoed it =) ). My opinion is that:1) For paid modules on Odoo Apps OpenERP S.A. need to create digest where anybody can subscribe and get digest of latest added modules.2) Regarding community list - if somebody asks about desired functionality, community rules shouldn't restrict providing links to paid apps / modules. It is really limiting users in their choice to only open source modules that may not close their needs.
And regarding contributions mailing list that Alexandre mentions - really that is the good way to isolate yourself from receiving undesired messages. But also it is needed to understand that for people who just joined Odoo community it is very hard to understand a variety of mailing lists and organizations around Odoo. Basically nobody cares.
So Community mailing list is good single entry point that is easy to understand and easy to join. Do not see real reason to make it too complex.
Technical Director, XPANSA Group | ERP, BI, E-commerce, Data Mining and DMS consulting
For the record, the OCA has a mailing list for its members, and another one for its contributors. While you obviously need to be a member to post on the former, the latter is open to anyone, and it is a nice place to discuss contributions to the OCA. Alexandre On 11/10/2015 21:24, James Fox wrote: > Mohamed, > > > As it is officially sanctioned by Odoo SA to have paid for modules on > the odoo platform then nobody should be allowed to say that these are > not allowed to be mentioned on the community mailing list - after all > they may well be relevant to all members of the list and this may have > been exactly why they joined the list in the first place. Whoever > criticised you or your brother should hang their heads in shame and > publically apologise to you on this list. > > If there are some people who cannot bear to read about paid for modules > on this mailing list then they should persuade the OCA or someone else > to set up a mailing list where they can discuss whatever it is they like > in a world of AGPL purity and not trouble everyone else with their out > of date opinions on the official Odoo SA mailing list here. > > James > > ==================== > Alfa Industrial Components > Litton House, Saville Road, Peterborough, Cambs, PE3 7PR, UK > Tel 03333 441658 Fax 03333 441659 > www.alfa-industrial.com > ==================== > > > >> Totally agree with you mohamed >> >> >> *SSLL, Intégrateur Odoo. >> * >> *Intégration de Services. >> * >> *BI and IT consulting.* >> firstname.lastname@example.org <mailto:email@example.com> >> tél 0661360233 - 0636898882 >> fax 0528215738 >> www.auriumtechnologies.com >> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Mohamed Magdy <firstname.lastname@example.org >> <mailto:email@example.com>> wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> I can see we have a new commercial module on the community with no >> *single attack* for using the Community Mailing List (*CML*) for >> personal and commercial purposes. >> >> All people are doing a great job, but it is not fair to have all >> the fire for someone and the flowers for the other for *NO REAL >> REASONS*. >> >> This email is an invitation to set a list of rules for the members >> to use the *CML*, and to stop this. >> >> I think I will stop publishing my new courses for Odoo, I am not >> sure if my brother will do the same until we have a *clear >> rules* for what is allowed and what is not. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Mohamed Magdy >> Odoo Technical Team Leader >> LinkedIn >> Mob 1: +201114347478>> Mob 2: +201095179215 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59>> Post to: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org >> <mailto:email@example.com> >> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 >> Post to: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org >> Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59 > Post to: mailto:email@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://www.odoo.com/groups?unsubscribe
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