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Re: Odoo 8 backend full responsive layouts (mobile friendly) any community projetcs on that ?

by
n.schmitt
- 08/20/2015 09:54:23
Well, it is technically open-source, but knowing that its paid, it won't
give me much incentive to help you on your code, knowing that instead of
being accesible to all the comunity, it will only be available to people
paying for it.

Furthermore I don't have access to the source code.

I do understand your point, and as we have seen the viewpoints vary
greatly on this question.

Good luck to you though.

Nicolas

On 20/08/15, Ahmed Magdy wrote:
> Why you guys bind paid apps to closed source?
> It won't be free nor closed source.
> I can't break odoo's license. And I am part of the community, I'm not enterprise.
> I hope my point is clear enough.
> Regards,
> 
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 5:22 AM Gunnar Wagner < gunnar.wagner@irisgermanica.com [1] > wrote:
> On 8/19/2015 5:15 PM, Mohamed M. Hagag
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> >  In my opinion, the mistake that Magy did is
> announcing a paid module on the community mailing list.
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> I think the mistake was that your module/them was given as an
> answer whether there where any community work being done on
> that, while it is not a community work but closed source
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> <blockquote cite=" mid:55D4463C.6020605@gmail.com [2] " type="cite">
> On 08/19/2015 12:33 AM, Mohamed Magdy
> wrote:
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> 
cite= "mid:CAHLAJDwRp3kHXbRzMvseregz0u=Ni3_Vpkt99P=4S7YX3NxxsQ@mail.gmail.com" [3] > type="cite"> > Hi All, > > I am not sure why we discuss this here, we're discussing how > should any developer publish his module (Paid or Free). Well, As > Mr. Mario said 'Ahmed invested his time and his knowledge' for > sure to earn his living. Most of you are companies who can plan > and execute their own strategies through years which will help > you to build a strong profile to get new projects, but Ahmed is > a FREELANCER. > > You as a company will be paid to hire developers to work on some > projects, In fact you're paid for the time of your team (you buy > the developer's time and experience then sell it to customers). > It is the same here, Ahmed will sell his time and his efforts. > The code is *open source *for sure, he will NOT close the > source. So, you have the option to pay for it, then you have a > new option to modify it and resell it, no one will mind even > Ahmed will welcome to do. > > Ahmed also did not make any marketing as I can see in this > thread, you can see that Mr. Yassine asked about a mobile > friendly theme and in the same time Ahmed was about publishing > his work. > > We know that this mailing list is for community to make Odoo > better, not for marketing. Well, I agree. Paid Modules -As > Fabien said- will motivate developers to do their best for a > better modules. It is the same goal, as I can see, I will be > happy to know that a new module with a new feature -* BADLY NEEDED *- and it will be > great to be informed through the community mailing list "WHICH > IS BUILT TO MAKE ODOO BETTER". > > You may want Ahmed to say sorry and stop using mailing list for > marketing his work that may make Odoo better, it is OK :). I > think Ahmed can do this, and he can keep the module for himself > and for sure he will welcome any private request to buy the > module. > > > > > > > > Best > Regards, > > Mohamed > Magdy > Odoo > and Django Developer > LinkedIn [4] > Mob > 1: +201114347478 > > Mob > 2: +201095179215 > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:42 PM, > OpenERP Master < openerpmaster@gmail.com [5] > > wrote: > > I am not in support of discouraging someone new in > the forum, but to the point generically, not directed at > the author in any way, I don't like when others post > links to modules that are not open source. It is > commercial advertisement, which takes away from the > spirit that the software was founded on. I post modules > all of the time, and reference link to github where the > code can get gotten. > > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:35 PM, > Houssine BAKKALI < None [6] houssine.bakkali@gmail.com [7] > > wrote: > > > > > > Sorry Ahmed but if I follow your > logic you can say "how odoo let their > product on the market for free they > could make a lot of money making > people paying for using it" > > > In fact this is what is a capitalistic > model while open source is more a > collaborative business model... you > don't pay for using the software, you > pay for having services like hosting, > fine tuning, customization, bug fixing, > training, migration... > > > thinking like you do, i just wonder why > you're not working on SAP our any closed > sources software... And I don't say that > I'm against paid app (even if I'm not > convinced) I'm for added value paid > services... > > > so we can't be disruptive adopting the rules > that we want to break... community is here > to help to make Odoo a better product and > widely adopted... > > > I think that the first point of Nhomar was > that they were using a community mailing list > for adverstising not community work or apps... > They were not the first ones to do that but > anyway this is definitely not the place for > this from my point of view... > > > even for the great paying apps it should be > another mailing list for communication about > it... > > my two cents that doesn't grant for a free beer > ;) > > > > > > 2015-08-18 21:43 GMT+02:00 Ahmed Elsaka > < None [8] eng.elsaka09@gmail.com [9] > : > > > > > > @،Nhomar,,, > I got your opinion, > You can see the positive part > (everyday, there is a new Odoo app), > Actually, I know your apps, > and I asked myself before, how you let > module like "IFRS" as free, you should > market and collect money regarding > module like that, that what Odoo did > :) :) > Anyway, my opinion is > everyone market what he wants and > everyone has the options to pay or not > > Finally:- > The good work market itself :) > > > > > On 18 Aug 2015 21:49, "Nhomar > Hernández" < None [10] nhomar@gmail.com [11] > > wrote: > > > > > > > 2015-08-18 > 13:27 GMT-05:00 Ahmed Elsaka > < None [12] eng.elsaka09@gmail.com [13] > : > I > think Ahmed isn't the > first one who publishes or > will publish paid apps, > there are many paid apps > on Odoo store based on > AGPL, So why many persons > don't accept the idea!! > > > My > point is not "Publish paid or > not publish paid" that's fine > for me (we will do it in some > moment). > > > My > point is use this lists to > promote an unfinished job, not > public which is clearly a fake > marketing in a set of features > that clearly will sell an > incorrect approach to end > customers and other people > around community. > > > I mean, > I can not say by myself I will > rewrite a paid interface for a > backend "Not technically > prepared to manage such > situation" with only one man > without introduce A LOT of > bugs in all the client, it is > technically impossible, then > say that you will charge > people for that it is not real > markets This is "misleading > advertising" [14] and I think > we have the dutty to say our > technical PoV (well I think I > have the duty to do that to ot > generalize). > > > If > somebody comes to this list > new I do not want people > reading that "there is a > mobile interface available for > 10 dollars and Odoo, SA is too > expensive", I want they read > the good options and the bad > options. > > > As I > said, may be in some point it > will be good, but for that > date, v9.0 is available, and > compare "less expensive" > between full featured > integrated mobile interface > vs. this one, "I prefer" pay > enterprise (if it is a real > need). > > > Then... > put some screenshots do not > makes you have a product, make > a negative comment like mine > because I am not agreed with > your marketing does not make > me a bad guy. > > > Regards. > > -- > > > -------------------- > Saludos Cordiales > > > CEO at Vauxoo [15] Odoo's Gold > Partner. > > > > > > > [16] > > > > Nhomar > Hernandez > about.me/nhomar [17] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Gunnar Wagner | Iris Germanica Co., Ltd. > | Jin Qian Gong Lu 385, > 8-201, Feng Xian District, 201404 Shanghai, P.R. 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