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Re: Odoo v9 Community and Enterprise editions

Anders Wallenquist
- 05/08/2015 04:15:41

Den 2015-05-08 08:44, Antony Lesuisse skrev:
> Take gitlab for example
> Does gitlab community looks like a stripped down version ? Or Mariadb
> Enterprise, does vanilla mariadb looks like a stripped down SQL database.
> Enterprise edition include advanced features that some customers might find
> desirable and it makes the value proposition very clear.
> We planned to publish a page with description of the features that will be
> available in enterprise like the gitlab comparaison. Those web pages have yet
> to be written as it was scheduled for the Odoo Experience.

Yes it makes limitiations. If you compare RHEL/Fedora offering vs 
Ubuntu/Ubuntu advantage there are a huge difference, which makes RHEL 
useless in the long run. We have many customers and know of several 
cases where they made this hard-earned experience. As long as there are 
no differences in the product per se between community and enterprise 
edition, the enterprise edition comes with a battery of professional 
services outside the code its OK.

The wrong thinking of payed partnership and the services available today 
for us to sell/resell/recommend for our customers are that its not well 
fitting with local businesses offerings. With two different lines of 
products community / Enterprise will widen the gap between OpenERP SAs 
business model and local business working with Odoo-users. We are a 
potential huge resource for OpenERP SA to sell a large portfolio of 
services (we sell services not products which is a huge difference). But 
instead OpenERP SA acts as an competitor at our customers and offers 
solutions that is not compatible with ours. The Odoo-user has to choose 
between us or OpenERP SA which is counterproductive and completely 
headless. We would gladly sell second line support and other services 
from OpenERP SA to support them to our customers. Correctly handled it 
could make our combined offering stronger.

We have helped a lot of customers to move from OSS-projects turned into 
product selling during the years; for example Joomla users to Drupal. I 
have the perception that the vast majority of companies that have chosen 
Odoo today made it because they believe in free software and want to get 
away from the degenerate license swamp. There is a great risk that the 
move to a new business model will be perceived negatively by those users 
and inhibits the influx of new companies. It is almost humorous that 
when the market failed licensing model and Satya Nadella moves sluggish 
Microsoft to open models so moving OpenERP Odoo to musty swamps.


Anders Wallenquist

I believe most of the companies working with Odoo today

> On 05/08/2015 02:34 AM, Stephen Mack wrote:
> > Any thought about being more descriptive with the naming to avoid confusion?
> >
> > If the Enterprise edition is simply a bundle of modules why make it sound like
> > the core is different.
> >
> > I fully support Odoo making paid modules but then why not name it "Enterprise
> > Feature Pack" or "Enterprise Add-on" or anything to signify that the Odoo core
> > is not involved.
> >
> > Odoo Community addition sounds like a stripped down, vanilla version of Odoo
> > Enterprise addition.
> >
> > I really want odoo to succeed but please don't add fuel to the fire.  Proudly
> > present Odoo as a strong product and then confidently charge for Enterprise
> > Module Features.
> >
> > Just my two cents.  I really don't want to be explaining the difference of the
> > two versions for years in the forums.
> >
> > Humbly,
> >
> > --Stephen
> >
> > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Antony Lesuisse <
> > <>> wrote:
> >
> >     With version 9, we will release 2 editions of odoo: Odoo Community and Odoo
> >     Enterprise.
> >
> >     Odoo Enterprise will consist of Odoo Community plus a set of enterprise only
> >     features (or in technical term, an additional repository with extra modules).
> >
> >     Some new features that have been under developement latetly will be in
> >     enterprise such as electronic signature, integration with shipping providers.
> >     For example the crm_voip module (currently published as a paid app on the app
> >     store) will be in the enterprise repository. However core modules like the new
> >     accounting remains in the Community version.
> >
> >     Odoo community will be supported as much as Odoo enterprise, Odoo Community is
> >     the foundation of Odoo Enterprise and it will remain free and open source as LGPL.
> >
> >     For technical users, they can access the code through the same GitHub
> >     repository. The community version 9 will be at odoo/odoo#9.0 and the
> >     development branch is still at odoo/odoo#master.
> >
> >     Odoo Enterprise users (and partners) will have access to the enterprise
> >     repository containing only the additional modules.
> >
> >     You might have wondered why odoo master has not been pushed for a few weeks.
> >     The reason is that we had some feature branches with those extra modules, we
> >     did not want to push the merged branches as LGPL.
> >
> >     We are currently filtering the branch with git-filter-branch before we can
> >     push it back to master.
> >
> >     Antony.
> >
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