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Re: Accounting Roadmap V9

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dar
- 02/04/2015 19:06:01
Hi Eva

would you bother to give a little resume of the discussion and the approaches so far? It seemse quite relevant to a lot of us, and I think, if we provide structure and order to odoo core developers changes of sinking in would be better?

Saludos Cordiales
David Arnold

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2015-01-31 4:42 GMT-05:00 Mathias Neef <mn@copado.de>:
Hey all!

What I want to know is, how the most used accounting practis goes in your country?
And what I want to reach is, that Odoo overthink the accounting practice, even if there is a way which makes it easier in every country around the world.

So please feel free to post your most practiced accounting way in your country.

Example:
In Odoo you have to make a minimum of two lines for each move. One for the credit and one for the debit.

Invoice 
Name 
Partner 
Account 
Due date 
Debit 
Credit 
Analytic Distribution 
Amount Currency 
Tax Account 
Tax/Base Amount 
Status 
Reconcile
Partial Reconcile
          19450.00 19450.00              
SAJ/2014/006 Test invoice 1 Test invoice 1 ASUSTeK X11002 Debtors - (test) 11/13/2014 0.00 19450.00   0.00   0.00 Balanced A2  
SAJ/2014/006 Test invoice 1 Server with raid 10 and 2048ECC ram ASUSTeK X2001 Product Sales - (test)   19450.00 0.00   0.00   0.00 Balanced    


In most programms here in germany it is standard to do this in only one line, but we can also do a split. So it looks like this:

Easy Way:
Invoice 
Name 
Partner 
Amount
Due date 
Account Debit
Account Credit
Analytic Distribution 
Amount Currency 
Tax Account 
Tax/Base Amount 
Status 
Reconcile
Partial Reconcile
SAJ/2014/006 Test invoice 1 Test invoice 1 ASUSTeK 19450.00 11/13/2014 X11002 Debtors - (test) X2001 Product Sales - (test)   0.00   0.00 Balanced A2  

Split:
Invoice 
Name 
Partner 
Amount
Due date 
Account Debit
Account Credit
Analytic Distribution 
Amount Currency 
Tax Account 
Tax/Base Amount 
Status 
Reconcile
Partial Reconcile
SAJ/2014/006 Test invoice 1 Test invoice 1 ASUSTeK 19450.00 11/13/2014 X11002 Debtors - (test)     0.00   0.00 Balanced A2  
SAJ/2014/006 Test invoice 1 Test invoice 1 ASUSTeK 19000.00 11/13/2014   X2001 Product Sales - (test)   0.00   0.00 Balanced A2  
SAJ/2014/006 Test invoice 1 Test invoice 1 ASUSTeK 450.00 11/13/2014   X2002 Service Sales - (test)   0.00   0.00 Balanced A2  


Best Regards,
Mathias


Am 23.01.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Denis Karataev:
<blockquote cite="mid:CAAB4a=bqe5oD4QytK+PjxDpkspuDgY5pxk7oRLNi4U2x1G8t0w@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">
Hello everyone, I'd like to put my 2 cents here.

In Russia we have different system of adding accounting entries than we can see now in Odoo v8. In Odoo when we create and validate an Invoice, accounting entries are added.

If to talk about prepayment workflow, in Odoo we need to do following steps:
1. create Invoice
2. validate Invoice
3. send Invoice by email / fax to the customer
4. add customer's payment
5. transfer products using Delivery Order

But in Russia it's different. We can't create and validate Invoice first because in our accounting law these accounting entries have to be added only based on delivery. And even more, we don't have different documents for accounting and stock management. We use just one document named "selling" that affects accounting and stock entries both when it's done.

Do any of you have similar things in accounting of your country? And what community could recommend in that case? And maybe we should include these requirements to the Roadmap?

Thanks in advance!

2014-10-23 13:27 GMT+03:00 Olivier Lenoir <olivier.lenoir@free.fr>:

Yes, nothing really new, all is about fraud:
Is Odoo accounting fraudulent ? I don't think so.

Should  Odoo accounting be certified ? It's a necessity.


Le 23/10/2014 11:34, Ferdinand Gassauer a écrit :
<blockquote cite="mid:5448CA4D.6090906@chricar.at" type="cite">
On 2014-10-23 11:09, Patrick Darribet wrote:

Nothing really new

the removal of instead of fixing the audit trail module in v8 deprives Odoo of being revision proof.

I just want to recall a discussion 4 years ago !!! see attachment
************************** SNIP ****
Nevertheless I want to emphasize that customers will and do request that 
OpenERP (as any other ERP system) will conform to local laws and audit rules 
and will expect from partners implementing these localized OpenERP versions, 
that OpenERP can be lawfully used as accounting system in this wider sense.
IMHO the market acceptance will dramatically improve if OpenERP gets certified 
in one of the major economic or EU countries. 
************************** SNIP *****
<blockquote cite="mid:2360c92221775dd6d4df4de32b74029b@sudokeys.com" type="cite">
 
The article comes from "La revue fiduciaire" , a magazine for all administrative and accounting professionals companies including "experts comptables".
It's official :
 
 
et 
 
 
Potentially, therefore , any company that uses free software and modifies the software or services company that modifies it, is responsible for the operation of the software on the accounting and is obliged to provide documentation that meets the criteria of the administration.
 
 
Patrick
 
 

Le 2014-10-23 09:37, Frédéric Clementi a écrit :

This documement is unbelievable ! In short we can all go to jail in France using Odoo accounting !
 
What is the source Patrick ? 

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2014-10-15 10:42 GMT+02:00 Patrick Darribet <patrick@sudokeys.com>:

Quentin

Un doc récent paru sur legifrance

 

Patrick

Le 2014-10-09 14:59, De Paoli Quentin a écrit :

Hi community,




Here's the roadmap we have so far for the accounting in v9: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MahXh0TdfjI0ohdTSz_c8cML7HqxvcAtvSAY63N20Tc/edit?usp=sharing. The work is still in progress but it's a good basis of work.

You'll also find, below this email, a webex invitation to virtually attend the presentation that will be held on the 14th of October (next week) on this document, for those who couldn't attend the 2-days session in Brussels. (Please don't forget to confirm me your presence if you can be physically there).

See you there,
have a great end of week,
Quentin


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