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Re: Looking for industry specific examples of Odoo deployments/implementations

by
melso.amr
- 02/02/2015 12:05:26
Gustavo,

 Thank you for your quick reply (I didn't expect to see anything until today (Monday)!

 As a point of clarification, my client asking for examples of existing implementations is not a technical one, it's more of an assurance thing - he just wants to know if others in his industry have had success implementing odoo. He's not technically inclined, but he's had to pour a significant amount of money into a commercial solution (that had to be customized), and doesn't want to get burned again. He's new to the idea of open source, and doesn't quite understand how a community of people can build and support software on par with a commercial product. He's coming around though, and the response(s) to my question on this list will be used to help make the case!

 The CFO of the company, however, is the individual I'm working on this project with, and he has a more technical background and 'gets' open source. Everyone involved is pretty realistic on the effort required. We're still in the early stages; I'm currently documenting processes, defining requirements and modeling the companies structure. I hope to prototype a system within the next 2-3 months as a proof-of-concept that odoo (or whatever solution we select) can do the job, but we are not looking to officially go live until January 2016, so we have time to pick the right solution.

 We are still evaluating different solutions and looking at alternatives. I'm leaning toward odoo, in part, because of it's modular nature and my belief that it can be made to meet the manufacturing needs of my client. As I said originally, I've done several projects with OpenERP/Odoo before, but smaller in scope. However, I've also worked on larger installations of Openbravo/ADempiere/iDempiere (most of my career is as a Java guy), and commercial software installations (Dynamics SL/GP, Sage 500/X3). I've worked with Python mostly for web development on-and-off over the years, but not on a project the scale of odoo. My client understands that, and we are budgeting for outside help when and where I may need it.

I appreciate your affirmation that odoo can do the job, and will heed your warnings on the effort it will require. May I ask the name of the company (or companies) that you did the work for? Don't need contact details, just a name. I can contact you privately if you do not wish to publish here.

Thanks again,

- Mike



On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Gustavo Marino <gamarino@numaes.com> wrote:
Mike;

We have made adaptations for companies in the aluminium industry, both extruders and producers of finished systems.

We have deal dualities like products considered at the same time units and kg, tolerances, acceptance with input tolerances, processing of units with painting, anodizing and bending. 
At the same time, multivariance with more than 50 superficial treatments and colours, for more than 4000 different base products, dynamic creation of variants and final pricing based on weighting and packaging.

In the case of systems, you have to handle complex product configurators, with mapping of needed segments to real stripes, and policarbon surface with auto computation of usage of sheets.

Finally both type of systems fulfil or exceeded customer expectations. Implementation was successful, but those systems are very far from a standard Odoo implementation. They need extensive module adaptation and creation, comprehensive testing and a strong effort from the customer and you as integrator.

Additionally, you will have to deal with tons of bugs of the base that was not tested at the deep you could expect, and most probably (even with a contract) you will often find yourself repairing and modifying the base code (more than that you could expect)

Odoo is in general "over simplistic" managing complex products and real life production processes. Make an informed assessment before doing any commitments.

I think your are underestimating the effort needed. Odoo fit in this market not because of the features it has (comparable to many others ERPs) or low entry cost for standard features, but because of the possibility to modify the system according to real life needs. In fact, your designing and implementing capabilities are by far more important than the base system, and certainly more costly. Expect modification efforts in the range of thousands hours and implementation not shorter than 6-9 months (assuming right support from your customer).

Also, I think your customer is not aware of the size of the challenge if he thinks the critical point is the existence of other implementations of Odoo in the same Industry. Again, the base is not the problem, the critical point is you.

Does the Odoo base support such a system? Yes, but most of the result depends not on the base but on the modification efforts

Please contact privately if you want more info

Be careful. It is not a simple job
Best regards

Gustavo Adrian Marino

 

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2015-01-31 11:27 GMT-03:00 Michael Elso <melso.amr@gmail.com>:
Hello Odoo Community,

I'm reaching out to the community for a client that is looking at odoo as an option for migration from an existing commercial ERP. One of the biggest concerns they have is whether or not others in their industry are currently using OpenERP/Odoo, and want assurances that it will be a good fit.

My client is a metals company, and they have a few 'non-standard' challenges. Inventory needs to be tracked by standard units or shape (slab, billet, sheet, coil, ingot, etc.), associated attributes (width, length, gauge, grade, etc.), and heat (chemical make-up of the metal). Production processes often involve transforming, cutting, shaping, washing, or various combinations making typical BOMs difficult to configure and manage.

In addition, weight variances are common. Weights on a PO, at time of receipt, on a Sales Acknowledgement, on the Packing Slip or on the Invoice are rarely the same. However, tolerances need to be tightly controlled. Carefully controlled Sequences and Quality checks are still in place along the way.

The system needs to have end-to-end visibility of the entire manufacturing process; from raw materials acquisition, to testing outside processing, shaping, treating, fabricating and on to shipping and billing.

The question is, has anyone used odoo in this industry and in this manner. If so, can you provide the names of the company or companies? I don't need implementation details or references, just affirmation that others are using odoo for metals processing and inventory -- my client doesn't want to blaze trails (though if the case can be made that odoo is up to the job, they may be persuaded).

I think for the size company, odoo lines up well for their needs, I only need to be able to point to a few examples that other companies are using the software as described above. I've done smaller implementation of odoo/OpenERP myself, but along traditional lines (simple manufacturing processes with simple BOMs, simple parts inventory, and a simple retail/POS installation), not with these complex requirements.

Thank you in advance for any feedback provided,

- Mike

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Michael Elso
AMR Solutions, Inc.





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