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Re: Looking for industry specific examples of Odoo deployments/implementations

by
Dave Ellison
- 02/02/2015 04:38:11
Hi,

Whilst not manufacturing, we are a Telecoms company and agree whilst the
Odoo core is sufficient in some companies requirements. Heavy
customisation was required to match our requirements. We aren't a huge
telecoms company, but provide lines, ADSL and physical systems. Which
Odoo, core or none community modules are not able to fully provide
support for. It took me, as I am IT in this company full stop, about 12
months in total. From start to finish, where we can fully run on the
system from start to finish.

So if you are implementing as a contractor, I would agree 6-9 months is
a good estimate. Though depending on support from the customer. I would
also say, even for an implementation, where the system does match
customer's requirements, there will always be some customisation.

Thanks

On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 17:16 +0000, Ana Juaristi wrote:
> Hi Michael:
> The kind of industry you want to implement with Odoo is the most
> complicated one on manufacturing (metal, steel, wood and so on). Any
> company having to "cut" o model pieces are the most dificult to manage
> with any ERP.
> 
> 
> I totally agree Gustavo that you will need heavily modifying Odoo
> standar/core if you want to offer it to your custormer as solution as
> it is now. I also agree that success on this case would be the strong
> changes/extensions you will need to build to extend the core.
> 
> 
> Said that, I would like to let you know about OdooMRP that could be
> nearer of your needs. It's a set of modules extending Odoo core in
> manufacturing area. Even if it provides a lot of extra functionality
> (manufacturing by operations, link with projects, subcontracting,
> product configurator... etc) you would still need to adapt/extend
> OdooMRP to fit your customer needs. We would be glad to recive your
> contributions if you find it usefull and we could even help you to
> define gap analysis about what it's made and what's missing regarding
> your customer needs.
> 
> 
> About the kind of industry using by now OdooMRP modules I can tell you
> chemical, doors, big machines and small machines. Noone specifically
> from metal industry itself.
> 
> 
> Here it is the OdooMRP repository:
> https://github.com/odoomrp/odoomrp-wip
> 
> 
> 
> Here it is our youtube channel if you want to take a look about
> several extra functionality we provide:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC63xc2pPSS1SIz9pBjnTuRQ
> 
> 
> 
> I also would be interested on knowing about Gustavo's alumininum
> industry solution, so is it published somewhere? is it build for what
> version? OpenERP or Odoo?  
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Ana
> 
> 2015-01-31 16:52 GMT+01:00 Gustavo Marino <gamarino@numaes.com>:
>         Mike;
>         
>         
>         We have made adaptations for companies in the aluminium
>         industry, both extruders and producers of finished systems.
>         
>         
>         We have deal dualities like products considered at the same
>         time units and kg, tolerances, acceptance with input
>         tolerances, processing of units with painting, anodizing and
>         bending. 
>         At the same time, multivariance with more than 50 superficial
>         treatments and colours, for more than 4000 different base
>         products, dynamic creation of variants and final pricing based
>         on weighting and packaging.
>         
>         
>         In the case of systems, you have to handle complex product
>         configurators, with mapping of needed segments to real
>         stripes, and policarbon surface with auto computation of usage
>         of sheets.
>         
>         
>         Finally both type of systems fulfil or exceeded customer
>         expectations. Implementation was successful, but those systems
>         are very far from a standard Odoo implementation. They need
>         extensive module adaptation and creation, comprehensive
>         testing and a strong effort from the customer and you as
>         integrator.
>         
>         
>         Additionally, you will have to deal with tons of bugs of the
>         base that was not tested at the deep you could expect, and
>         most probably (even with a contract) you will often find
>         yourself repairing and modifying the base code (more than that
>         you could expect)
>         
>         
>         Odoo is in general "over simplistic" managing complex products
>         and real life production processes. Make an informed
>         assessment before doing any commitments.
>         
>         
>         I think your are underestimating the effort needed. Odoo fit
>         in this market not because of the features it has (comparable
>         to many others ERPs) or low entry cost for standard features,
>         but because of the possibility to modify the system according
>         to real life needs. In fact, your designing and implementing
>         capabilities are by far more important than the base system,
>         and certainly more costly. Expect modification efforts in the
>         range of thousands hours and implementation not shorter than
>         6-9 months (assuming right support from your customer).
>         
>         
>         Also, I think your customer is not aware of the size of the
>         challenge if he thinks the critical point is the existence of
>         other implementations of Odoo in the same Industry. Again, the
>         base is not the problem, the critical point is you.
>         
>         
>         Does the Odoo base support such a system? Yes, but most of the
>         result depends not on the base but on the modification efforts
>         
>         
>         Please contact privately if you want more info
>         
>         
>         Be careful. It is not a simple job
>         Best regards
>         
>         Gustavo Adrian Marino
>         
>          
>         
>         Mobile:  +54 911 5498 2515
>         
>         Email: gamarino@numaes.com
>         
>         Skype: gustavo.adrian.marino
>         
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>         2015-01-31 11:27 GMT-03:00 Michael Elso <melso.amr@gmail.com>:
>         
>                 Hello Odoo Community,
>                 
>                 
>                 I'm reaching out to the community for a client that is
>                 looking at odoo as an option for migration from an
>                 existing commercial ERP. One of the biggest concerns
>                 they have is whether or not others in their industry
>                 are currently using OpenERP/Odoo, and want assurances
>                 that it will be a good fit.
>                 
>                 
>                 My client is a metals company, and they have a few
>                 'non-standard' challenges. Inventory needs to be
>                 tracked by standard units or shape (slab, billet,
>                 sheet, coil, ingot, etc.), associated attributes
>                 (width, length, gauge, grade, etc.), and heat
>                 (chemical make-up of the metal). Production processes
>                 often involve transforming, cutting, shaping, washing,
>                 or various combinations making typical BOMs difficult
>                 to configure and manage.
>                 
>                 
>                 In addition, weight variances are common. Weights on a
>                 PO, at time of receipt, on a Sales Acknowledgement, on
>                 the Packing Slip or on the Invoice are rarely the
>                 same. However, tolerances need to be tightly
>                 controlled. Carefully controlled Sequences and Quality
>                 checks are still in place along the way.
>                 
>                 
>                 The system needs to have end-to-end visibility of the
>                 entire manufacturing process; from raw materials
>                 acquisition, to testing outside processing, shaping,
>                 treating, fabricating and on to shipping and billing.
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 The question is, has anyone used odoo in this industry
>                 and in this manner. If so, can you provide the names
>                 of the company or companies? I don't need
>                 implementation details or references, just affirmation
>                 that others are using odoo for metals processing and
>                 inventory -- my client doesn't want to blaze trails
>                 (though if the case can be made that odoo is up to the
>                 job, they may be persuaded).
>                 
>                 
>                 I think for the size company, odoo lines up well for
>                 their needs, I only need to be able to point to a few
>                 examples that other companies are using the software
>                 as described above. I've done smaller implementation
>                 of odoo/OpenERP myself, but along traditional lines
>                 (simple manufacturing processes with simple BOMs,
>                 simple parts inventory, and a simple retail/POS
>                 installation), not with these complex requirements.
>                 
>                 
>                 Thank you in advance for any feedback provided,
>                 
>                 
>                 - Mike
>                 
>                 
>                 ---------------------------------
>                 Michael Elso
>                 AMR Solutions, Inc.
>                 melso.amr@gmail.com
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