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Re: Multi-Dimention Account Posting in an account_move_line, Possible?

by
Eva Pinter
- 01/18/2015 06:08:30
In SAP, we have exactly the same problem. SAP does not allow to cancel, so when you make a mistake, you have to create exactly the opposite entry that, in SAP for example will be a credit note, if you had wrongly posted an invoice. Some customers are unhappy about the solution as the credit note will appear on the customer statement. But from a legal point of you, you are on the correct side.

In Odoo, you will have to create a refund or, if you do not have to see the word refund in the accounting, you will have to do it manually.

The solution of Odoo with the cancel is very good and due to the fact that the number is only assigned once, you have a continuity of numbering as it is required in many countries, like in Italy.
For smaller companies, this does not play a role at all as many of them do manual accounting or use excel to do accounting, what is also accepted by most authorities for small businesses.

Hope this help

Good Luck!
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On 18 Jan 2015, at 07:12, Kitti U. <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:

Thank you Eva,

Yes, I understand that we can disallow the cancel. But how to do reverse/counter document to cancel invoice? Do we have to do it manually or is it a feature?

You are not talking about refund, right?

I been looking for it for long time. Thanks again,
Kitti

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Eva Pinter <epinter@openit.ch> wrote:

Hi Kitti,


If you do not install cancel module, there is no problem and you will only be able to cancel a document by creating the reverse document.

good luck
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On 17 Jan 2015, at 17:52, Kitti U. <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:

Hello Fabian,

I have look into account_analytic_plans thoroughly. Although I admit that it is a smart and very generic way to distribute a move line with multiple Analytic Accounts, and will work for many cases. Yet, I also agree with others. 

What most of us want is something different. In the PO / INV Lines itself, we need to select another dimension directly in the line which might be another kind of master data, much like partner or products. For example, Sales Region, Campaign.

In other SAP(or even Compiere/Adempiere), for example, they might prepare up to 6 dimension, and allow us to tie it to our master data of choice, like, Sales Region, Business Area, Campaign, Project, etc. These dimension will account into Accounting Combination when posting. (i.e., HQ-12110-_-_-_-_).

In account_analytic_plans, I try to think of using it also, but really can't imaging how user can use it easily. Also not to mentioned that we will have to make every dimension we want as analytic account.

Kind Regards,
Kitti U.

Additional Notice: Odoo is a great product, and we love it in many many ways. But when come to accounting, somehow we always have trouble. Although we already try to adjust our thinking to the modern way of Odoo. But some aspect of accounting engine just not solid enough comparing to other ERP (for accounting aspect). Example like, deleting all journal entries when cancelling invoice, just not bearable for auditing standpoint of large companies, etc...

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Daniel Stolovich <daniel.stolovich@quanam.com> wrote:
Hi Fabien,

First thing we did was analyze that module you recommend, but the way it works, requires to enter several rows and you can't mix easily several dimensions, for instance: assign an amount for a specific cost center AND a project at the same time...

We think  the approach should be in columns not rows, do you that will be addressed in v9?



El 17/1/2015, a las 14:27, Fabien Pinckaers <fp@odoo.com> escribió:

> I understand that the requirement refers to combine several dimensions > in the same line, in my experience with Oracle and SAP ERPs, is very > useful for a lot of companies, in certain cases valid combinations among > dimensions can be defined to validate input. > > We are having same limitations and thinking in create a specific module > to support that. Impact is large, affects transaction input, posting > process, report filters and info. As explained just before, please don't develop a module. It already exists in standard: account_analytic_plans. It allows to define multiple dimensions, models of how to spread entries, constraints per journal. >> Install the official module account_analytic_plans, it allows to >> define multiple dimensions/plans >> >> On Jan 16, 2015 11:58 PM, "Kitti U." <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th >> <mailto:kittiu@ecosoft.co.th
>> wrote: >> >> Dear community, >> >> Normally in Odoo, we can have one additional *Analytic Account >> column* for projects or contract, when do the account posting, right? >> >> *QUESTION: *Are there addons or ways to have *Multiple Analytic >> Accounts posting* in an account_move_line? >> >> >> >> In other ERP, it is called Accounting Dimensions, where you can >> define dimension like, Projects, Departments, Sales Person, etc. >> but I couldn't find such concept in Odoo. >> >> I am not talking about Analytic Account Distribution >> (account_analytic_plan), which seem to only make sub table to >> define the percentage distribution of each project in a plan. >> >> Many thanks, >> -- >> Mobile: +66-(0)8-1841-7480 >> Your ERP Partner => www.ecosoft.co.th >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://www.odoo.com/groups/community-59
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