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Re: Accounting v9: updated specifications

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Graeme Gellatly
- 12/04/2014 21:03:43
While maybe not the best idea for simple support of processing multiple orders, akretion used to have a module stock_batch_picking.  Over time I've adopted it and recently ported to v7.  Is pretty simple but is on my github

https://github.com/gdgellatly/odoo_public

Not sure how much it gets used, as I just checked it and it looks like I didn't port for those stupid intermediate models that came out in v7.  Will do it later this afternoon.

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Caudal Eric <caudaleric@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes it would handle shipment to set up the landing cost at shipment level and propagate to all POs contained in the shipment according to the distribution key.
No it doesnot allow massive reception (I am personnaly not convinced this is a good idea)
Eric


2014-12-05 9:32 GMT+08:00 Jonathan Wilson <jon@willowit.com.au>:
Hi Eric

Does your module handle "shipments", i.e. a shipment is probably one or more containers and the landed costs are applied to the shipment. Purchase orders are added to the shipment and the landed costs are disbursed across all these PO's when receipted. Additionally, it should be possible to receipt the shipment in one go.

We have been meaning to do this but if we could contribute to your project to extend its functionality we will.

Thanks

Jonathan Wilson
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2013 OpenERP Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of  Odoo-Pentaho integration project





On 5 December 2014 at 11:58, Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@gmail.com> wrote:

Ups.. Sorry Eric, I didn't understand that you had the  modules developed by now. I thougth you were telling the requirements. Problems of half reading messages.

Maybe we should think about taking the best of both aproaches and building a single one. Just a suggestion.
:)

El 05/12/2014 01:38, "Caudal Eric" <caudaleric@gmail.com> escribió:
Hi Ana,
I ll have a look for v8. Our developments are done for v7 and probably will cover the same functional area.

Best
Eric

2014-12-05 8:22 GMT+08:00 Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@gmail.com>:
Hi Eric:
Maybe you would like to take a look to this module:

It's fully functional module that could be first aproach to have all the functionality you are asking for.

It allows defining different kind of LC, even imported from invoces lines and distribute amount over picking lines products. It's modifying product cost on product form and in very short time will also modify quant cost and cost history table. 

It's not still finished but it covers our customer needed functionality by the moment. 

Let us know:
Ana

2014-12-05 1:12 GMT+01:00 Caudal Eric <caudaleric@gmail.com>:
I think I never got answer on that topic which is really important.
We will come up in the coming weeks with a set of modules for v7, summary of our past months analysis and deployment on the topic with:
- Multicurrency LC
- possibility to have container's assigned LC template to spread over several PO (container => PO => IS or later stock picking)
- possibility to have LC on PO and SP for the following distribution keys: amount, unit, volume and weight
- possibility to have separate duty zone (DZ) and cost price in a company. Meaning that you could have a LC on an internal move that will recalculate your DZ cost price and transfer from one balance sheet account to another.
- Possibility to add LC rules between locations (eg transfer from duty free to duty paid with the corresponding taxes)
- wizard to post the LC into average price and accounting that were not taken into account at PO or SP processing (Month end process)

This topic and above features are very hot amongst my customers (I dont have any who doesnot request it and it is a legal requirements in some countries) and I am still wondering whether it will be taken into account properly in v9.

2014-10-28 9:07 GMT+08:00 Caudal Eric <caudaleric@gmail.com>:
Hi Fabien,
Thanks for the feedback.

I am currently working on the accounting localization for a company in Singapore (in v7) and one of the main topics is the treatment of the landing costs in the accounting operations.
One of the requirements is that we need to be able to have a different cost for 2 main warehouses (inbond and duty-paid) with a one-way transaction  (internal stock move) from Inbond to duty-paid with the corresponding fees (landing cost) associated.
As soon the goods arrive in DP location, the cost must be updated and include the cost of inbond + LC. When the sales invoice is validated (with AS accounting), COGS should be the cost associated to the location that originate the stock move (cost or cost+LC)
This kind of transaction is quite common in the countries we are currently dealing with (China, HK, SG, etc...) and quite standard for any company involved in international business trade (This is probably even true for large companies with several warehouses and high inter-warehouse transfer costs).

Currently Singaporian  auditors cannot certify Odoo without this capability (multiple cost + LC proper management) and I wouldnot be surprised this would be the case for other countries.

Are there any plan to elaborate on this kind of requirement within this scope?
Should it be included as part of WMS management (currently in v8 there is a LC module and easier cost management at location level)?
In general, I see few requirements/proposal for changes on transaction setup (sales/purchase/stock) and for example the possibility in multi-company environment to select between continental / Anglosaxon accounting.
What are the plan on this particular topic?

Looking forward to reading you
Eric Caudal

2014-10-25 23:46 GMT+08:00 Fabien Pinckaers <fp@odoo.com>:
Dear Odoo community,

Following our accounting workshop with community members (around 25
attendees from UK, NL, BE, CH, FR, RO, DE), we updated the accounting
specifications for version 9:


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MahXh0TdfjI0ohdTSz_c8cML7HqxvcAtvSAY63N20Tc/edit?usp=sharing

We still have a few open questions for the community:

1/ does anyone use "Python" computed taxes for another reason than:
rounding (at 0.05 in Switzerland) or division computation (like in
Bolivia or Brazil)

2/ does anyone have refund Tax accounts that are different from the tax
account of the related invoice? (I mean account.account, not
account.tax.code)

3/ do you sometimes have for THE SAME invoice, some lines which are with
tax included in price and other lines with tax excluded of the price?

4/ did you ever needed a tax with two levels? (a tax that has children
and those children also have children)

Please have a look at this document and check if it matches with your
country requirements.

Thanks,



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